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    Player TroySoFab's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    How many players would actually wear dresses, panties, and the like, unironically? That means no joke sets, dressed up alt (that is barely played), or just people saying they would (they don't). Many may like talking about how it's the 'right' thing, but is the 'right' thing a justifiable enough reason to use up even more resources on something only a fraction of the playerbase would actually use?

    My guess would be quite a few. I've seen a lot of male characters wear the school skirt, something that would have normally been genderlocked to only female. The gold saucer bunny outfit is another good example. And so what if someone does want to wear it ironically? Just because something may look garish and funny to you doesn't mean it looks that way to others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TroySoFab View Post
    My guess would be quite a few. I've seen a lot of male characters wear the school skirt, something that would have normally been genderlocked to only female. The gold saucer bunny outfit is another good example. And so what if someone does want to wear it ironically? Just because something may look garish and funny to you doesn't mean it looks that way to others.
    I won't lie, I think the particularly feminine dresses created specifically with the female form in mind (feminine body features) do look pretty terrible on male characters, but that's not the actual reason I am against this given priority. As I have stated for years, it's the supposed lack of resources, and I'd rather see other long time requests implemented beforehand. Like the hempen sets being converted to all races, as I stated prior. That or more new gear in general, of various kinds.
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    Last edited by SturmChurro; 07-28-2021 at 01:18 PM.
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    its not like 20 people watching someone make a dress for a dude like its a surgery or something

    like one guy did all the blue mage spells pretty sure they can deal with rerigging some clothes once every 8 months.
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    Last edited by Duskane; 07-26-2021 at 05:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post
    its not like 20 people watching someone make a dress for a dude like its a surgery or something

    like one guy did all the blue mage spells pretty sure they can deal with rerigging some clothes once every 8 months.
    No don't you understand, SE doesn't have someone to take care of scheduling and workload for them. They RELY on the forum to figure that stuff out for them! I'm just glad we all have all the details about their man-power and workflow so we can make these educated decisions for them. *nod nod*
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    Last edited by Roda; 07-26-2021 at 08:56 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post
    its not like 20 people watching someone make a dress for a dude like its a surgery or something

    like one guy did all the blue mage spells pretty sure they can deal with rerigging some clothes once every 8 months.
    Considering they couldn’t even give us a 9s glam yeah no it seems like it’s pretty difficult for them . I’d rather that workload go towards making other glams rather than glams a very niche portion of the audience will use. You seem very knowledgeable on the workings of game designing though. Care to share your qualifications?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    Considering they couldn’t even give us a 9s glam yeah no it seems like it’s pretty difficult for them . I’d rather that workload go towards making other glams rather than glams a very niche portion of the audience will use. You seem very knowledgeable on the workings of game designing though. Care to share your qualifications?
    never said they couldn't
    they just didn't
    and apparently nier is gonna get some continuation in the future

    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    When the gender lock was removed for hairstyles the design direction shifted to an abundance of overly feminine and androgynous designs that somehow manage to be too long for the typical male character and too short for the typical female character.
    all the hair styles we have gotten recently are just contest design winners they are catching up on or cosplay hair styles
    nothing to do with gender unlocking hairs
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    Last edited by Duskane; 07-26-2021 at 10:12 PM.

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    When there's an established trend for content to be cut in the name of niche pursuits it isn't at all unreasonable for players to not want to see a lot of focus on niche pursuits.

    When the gender lock was removed for hairstyles the design direction shifted to an abundance of overly feminine and androgynous designs that somehow manage to be too long for the typical male character and too short for the typical female character.

    I'd rather not see the same thing happen with glamour as well.
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    Player KizuyaKatogami's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post
    never said they couldn't
    they just didn't
    and apparently nier is gonna get some continuation in the future



    all the hair styles we have gotten recently are just contest design winners they are catching up on or cosplay hair styles
    nothing to do with gender unlocking hairs
    When did they say it’s going to get a continuation? Cuz i
    hope to god it doesn’t. Worst alli raid series in the game. Story is even worse.
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    Tristain Archambeau
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    When did they say it’s going to get a continuation? Cuz i
    hope to god it doesn’t. Worst alli raid series in the game. Story is even worse.
    Seconded, the less of it, the better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    Seconded, the less of it, the better.
    Thirded and I like Yoko Taro's work. It has a weird, somber aesthetic that's always appealed to me. But when I want to play NieR or Drakengard I play NieR or Drakengard (PS: Friends don't let friends actually play Drakengard).

    That said I am pretty sure Yoko Taro was doing a Yoko Taro and there is no more NieR content. Didn't Yoshi P already say no more crossovers? At least ones of that size. An Alliance Raid is too huge a part of an expansion to be a crossover.
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