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    LisSquid's Avatar
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    Mother Kos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    Calling options you don't like childish etc and getting into rants about modesty is also totally unnecessary in this discussion.
    It muddies the water and makes it sound like you're just interested in ranting against clothing that goes against your taste.
    I thought this thread was about discussing what we want? What's your point? :P
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    Ayuh'ra Bajhiri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    I'm fine with the gender lock not being a priority to remove if it means more focus on traditionally masculine gear for male characters and traditionally feminine gear for female characters. It's what the majority of people seem to want, after all - and I'd rather not see the game's fashion trends dictated purely by whoever happens to be the the loudest, most vocal voice within the community.
    ????

    Why would we lose out on masculine and feminine gear?

    To me removing the lock just means a guy can use the thavnarian outfit and a girl can run around in big, spiky pauldrons. If they want to.
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayuhra View Post
    ????

    Why would we lose out on masculine and feminine gear?

    To me removing the lock just means a guy can use the thavnarian outfit and a girl can run around in big, spiky pauldrons. If they want to.
    As I said in this post:

    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Resources are finite and the moment gender locks were removed on hairstyles we began getting an increase in the amount of androgynous/feminine hairstyles that are considered too long by many people playing male characters and too short by many people playing female characters.

    If they can be unlocked over time when the development team have room to breathe, fine - but I'd rather not miss out on cool looking male attire because the latest dress thrown up on the Mog Station 'needs' to account for the very tiny portion of the player base who wish to clad their character in it.

    As it stands, there's also many more players playing female characters who wish to dress up in male attire compared to the number of people playing male characters who wish to dress up in female attire.
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    Player Amnmaat's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    I'm fine with the gender lock not being a priority to remove if it means more focus on traditionally masculine gear for male characters and traditionally feminine gear for female characters. It's what the majority of people seem to want, after all - and I'd rather not see the game's fashion trends dictated purely by whoever happens to be the the loudest, most vocal voice within the community.
    I vehemently agree with this. It literally stresses out the devs to have to work on twice as much gear by having to make them fit on both genders. These devs are already stressed the hell out.

    A better solution would be to put a male symbol in front of all females and a female symbol in front of all males. It's not a perfect solution but it's a good temporary one until they can monetarily justify doing twice as much work.
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    Last edited by Amnmaat; 07-24-2021 at 04:21 AM.

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    Kane Blackstone
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    I'm fine with the gender lock not being a priority to remove if it means more focus on traditionally masculine gear for male characters and traditionally feminine gear for female characters. It's what the majority of people seem to want, after all - and I'd rather not see the game's fashion trends dictated purely by whoever happens to be the the loudest, most vocal voice within the community.
    Well said.
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    Drake Drakon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    I'm fine with the gender lock not being a priority to remove if it means more focus on traditionally masculine gear for male characters and traditionally feminine gear for female characters. It's what the majority of people seem to want, after all - and I'd rather not see the game's fashion trends dictated purely by whoever happens to be the the loudest, most vocal voice within the community.
    >traditionally masculine gear
    >plays midlander

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    Tristain Archambeau
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skiros View Post
    >traditionally masculine gear
    >plays midlander

    Where's your confusion? They look better than the rather unfetching sharkfaces of highlanders, the frankly bizarre lack of eyebrows and the even worse alternative face options they have at their disposal. Virtually every other option has quirks that people love or hate. Not everyone enjoys the horns and tails of Au Ra, or the clipping we suffer, for example. Hence, midlander.

    Can also say the derplander face looks better than any highlander I've ever seen. So I don't get your point.
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    Misty Mew
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    I'm fine with the gender lock not being a priority to remove if it means more focus on traditionally masculine gear for male characters and traditionally feminine gear for female characters. It's what the majority of people seem to want, after all - and I'd rather not see the game's fashion trends dictated purely by whoever happens to be the the loudest, most vocal voice within the community.
    Hear hear!!
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    Kemi Epoc
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    Balmung
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    They aren't always fitted for every female character. What's happening there is it's loading the male version of the outfit on a female character, but the game doesn't work the other way. I'd wager it's because there are some genuinely gender neutral items like gloves and boots. So the game translates the male character appearance to a female character if one doesn't exist. That's a pretty common approach to gender neutral items in most games.
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    Kizuya Katogami
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrizzlyTank View Post
    Not having genderlocking doesn't mean an outfit can't be masculine or feminine. As with the example provided by Roukiz. All the genderlocking serves is to provide frustration for players when they find a piece of gear that looks nice and disappointingly enough it's gender locked.

    When i get a pair of pants, i want them to be a pair of pants and not a skirt!
    Look at how they’ve done with caster and healer gear. Even the male ones are incredibly feminine. I’d rather not have that be a thing. Hell, the 2b gear isn’t genderlocked but it’s still heavily feminine and got no male alternative. I’d rather they spend more time coming up with more masculine male glams than trying to come up with ungenderlocked glams that appease a 1%
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