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    Player KizuyaKatogami's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post
    Yeah I used to be against this, but I've come around over the years. If you've leveled the job that can wear it, then you should be able to glam it on any job. (AF gear aside.)

    I think mostly I'd just like some tangible benefit to leveling a bunch of jobs.
    I think i remember awhile ago, Yoshi made a really weird comment based on this(can’t ever find the source). But he said something along the lines of, they don’t want to remove job/role locks on gear because it would confuse people in pvp on what job they are....which i don’t really understand considering level 1 glams exist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    I think i remember awhile ago, Yoshi made a really weird comment based on this(can’t ever find the source). But he said something along the lines of, they don’t want to remove job/role locks on gear because it would confuse people in pvp on what job they are....which i don’t really understand considering level 1 glams exist.
    As if people played PVP...
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    I think i remember awhile ago, Yoshi made a really weird comment based on this(can’t ever find the source). But he said something along the lines of, they don’t want to remove job/role locks on gear because it would confuse people in pvp on what job they are....which i don’t really understand considering level 1 glams exist.
    everyones badass until the white mage starts casting mudras
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    Even then, the player's class is displayed right above their names during pvp so that's a flimsy excuse at best.

    If anything it just sounds like they don't want to tango with the dreaded spaghetti code any more than they have to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BaconBits View Post
    Even then, the player's class is displayed right above their names during pvp so that's a flimsy excuse at best.

    If anything it just sounds like they don't want to tango with the dreaded spaghetti code any more than they have to.
    Naw, the code already exists. The Korean client enjoys no glamour restrictions, and I am full of envy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LisSquid View Post
    Naw, the code already exists. The Korean client enjoys no glamour restrictions, and I am full of envy.
    Generally due to selling a lot more glamour items over on the cash shop, correct?

    I'd wager if there wasn't so much backlash against the Mog Station over here, we'd get the same.

    Maybe I'm mistaken, but I heard there's gathering and crafting gear sold as cosmetic items on the Mog Station there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Generally due to selling a lot more glamour items over on the cash shop, correct?

    I'd wager if there wasn't so much backlash against the Mog Station over here, we'd get the same.

    Maybe I'm mistaken, but I heard there's gathering and crafting gear sold as cosmetic items on the Mog Station there.
    Yeah, what I'd guess as well. From what I can tell, players over there enjoy cash shops in games - even if it's 'pay2win'. In turn their cash shop team probably gets more funding and can add a wider variety of items.
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    Player KizuyaKatogami's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by dejiko_san View Post
    The dev team said in the past they're keeping them undyeable to keep them authentic to the look when the characters wore them. I personally am totally ok with that so there's your one person that's ok with it.
    It’s dungeon outfits though. They also make them dyable later on but only for doh/l. So it’s like...cool they’re dyable now but they’re locked to crafters and gatherers... It shouldn’t take a whole other expansion to make that gear dyable, it should be dyable day 1 period end of story. Kinda crazy to me that hasn’t been addressed yet but transparency isn’t exactly the 14 team’s forte.
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    R'lileen Min'enoth
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    The funny thing is people call phobia when we disagree about a matter of aesthetic.

    Clothes for "women" are supposed to be made for "women" body shape as clothes for men are supposed to be made for "men" body shape.

    It's not because you find a clothing pretty it will fit you. You don't believe me? Then why so many people ask for advices to dress if it is false? Why so many magazines give advices to choose the right shape of clothes depending of your body type?

    Women clothes rarely fit men especially when the cut is made to valorize hips shape (without telling anything about hairy men's legs ).

    Even without considering gender, some clothing will look vulgar or weird one some people when it will look cool on another. Maybe it's unfair but that's the life.
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    Last edited by Eldevern; 07-25-2021 at 04:40 PM.
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    Normality is just an average. I'm the weird, you're the bizarre.

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    Imora Dal'syn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldevern View Post
    The funny thing is people call phobia when we disagree about a matter of aesthetic.

    Clothes for "women" are supposed to be made for "women" body shape as clothes for men are supposed to be made for "men" body shape.

    It's not because you find a clothing pretty it will fit you. You don't believe me? Then why so many people ask for advices to dress if it is false? Why so many magazines give advices to choose the right shape of clothes depending of your body type?

    Women clothes rarely fit men especially when the cut is made to valorize hips shape (without telling anything about hairy men's legs ).

    Even without considering gender, some clothing will look vulgar or weird one some people when it will look cool on another. Maybe it's unfair but that's the life.
    Example, last time I tried wearing men's pants, they didn't fit my butt or thighs yet the waist and legs dimensions were correct.

    Mens and womens clothes are definitely cut differently. Ever try wearing the other sex's formal wear? You want to, you need that stuff custom made because rarely does it fit well without alterations.
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