STOP Genderlocking Cosmetics!!

[ZedxKayn]

I read through all that and all I saw was a bunch of contradictions.

That's because you see what you want to see and actually illustrate what he's talking about really well.

[Amnmaat]

That's because you see what you want to see and actually illustrate what he's talking about really well.

Incorrect, he's trying to stifle discussion by asking people not to question/challenge the topic at hand.

[ZedxKayn]

Incorrect, he's trying to stifle discussion by asking people not to question/challenge the topic at hand.

Case in point, because most of your posts have had a questionable attitude towards people who disagreed with you rather than the actual topic at hand.

[Amnmaat]

If you're free to disagree with people, people are just as free to disagree with you. No contradiction here. Also I don't hate it, don't see myself saying so in my post and would be glad if people won't put words and meanings I didn't say and mean in my mouth, thank you very much.

People want more masculine options, even if there're enough of them? Ask for them. People want to have more feminine options, even if there're enough of them? Ask for them. It's simple as that. Everything else can be, and will be, decided by developers, not us, no matter how many pages people argue with each other over nothing.



In comparison as well. I'm not from the West, so what I see as masculine may, and likely does, vary from your views. That said, can there be more options to appeal to both parties? Yes. Should there be more options to appeal for both parties? Also yes. What can we do as players? Asking for those options to be included. Everything else falls into DevTeam's hands.

The dev team isn't here to decide; this is what the purpose of a forum is, to discuss. Hiding behind the devs when you don't like the disagreements doesn't look that great on your part. On the contrary, I invite you to tell us why you think it's very important for them to make male characters wear female clothes when they're still working on male viera, female hrothgar, hairstyles for both races, as well as hats/helmets for them, on top of texture update.

To say less of the fact that requesting female clothes on male characters would by standards require male clothes on females. Doubling the amount of development time required to make a lot of these FFXIV store and possibly level 1 clothes.

Case in point, because most of your posts have had a questionable attitude towards people who disagreed with you rather than the actual topic at hand.

Examples? You will find none.
Just because you say it doesn't make it true.

[ZedxKayn]

Examples? You will find none.

Literally look at your last two posts.

Just because you say it doesn't make it true.

Convenient way to brush off criticism, but this is going too far off topic and I won't entertain someone who overuses strawman arguments any further.

[Amnmaat]

Literally look at your last two posts.

Convenient way to brush off criticism, but this is going too far off topic and I won't entertain someone who overuses strawman arguments any further.

The irony in this statement is laughable; I never accused you if doing anything that I couldn't prove. But you accuse me of something that you can't prove and you're talking about strawman arguments? This is why no one takes wanting to see males in dress seriously.

[Halivel]

The dev team isn't here to decide; this is what the purpose of a forum is, to discuss. Hiding behind the devs when you don't like the disagreements doesn't look that great on your part. On the contrary, I invite you to tell us why you think it's very important for them to make male characters wear female clothes when they're still working on male viera, female hrothgar, hairstyles for both races, as well as hats/helmets for them, on top of texture update.

To say less of the fact that requesting female clothes on male characters would by standards require male clothes on females. Doubling the amount of development time required to make a lot of these FFXIV store and possibly level 1 clothes.

And where do I personally state that they should put current workload aside and start removing genderlocks immediately because somebody asked to? I never did, and wasn't even going to.

Is it very important? Probably not. Would it be good to have, if they ever the time to do this work? Yes, for those who need this addition, just as it will be good to have stubble or beards for those who need them (mentioning these because they're the most recent request I can think of). Just because some glamour option is going to be used by a fraction of playerbase doesn't mean it's wasteful - an absolute majority of glamour options is used by a fraction of playerbase anyway. Wheretver developers can work on these requests at all or when is another question. It's obvious they should prioritize work they have at hands first. Doesn't mean that people can't or shouldn't ask for something for future.

[Amnmaat]

And where do I personally state that they should put current workload aside and start removing genderlocks immediately because somebody asked to? I never did, and wasn't even going to.

Is it very important? Probably not. Would it be good to have, if they ever the time to do this work? Yes, for those who need this addition, just as it will be good to have stubble or beards for those who need them (mentioning these because they're the most recent request I can think of). Just because some glamour option is going to be used by a fraction of playerbase doesn't mean it's wasteful - an absolute majority of glamour options is used by a fraction of playerbase anyway. Wheretver developers can work on these requests at all or when is another question. It's obvious they should prioritize work they have at hands first. Doesn't mean that people can't or shouldn't ask for something for future.

I never said you said you immediately, I invited you to explain. Letting male characters wear female clothes and female characters wear male clothes doubles their workload per glamour set and conflicts with male viera, female hrothgar, viera and hrothgar hats/helmets, HD textures, stubble, etc. Adding something new to the project pipeline adds to the work and resources needed to complete these projects.

Let me tell you a secret about Project Management. Every time you add a new feature you're adding extra hours and resources needed for said projects. Good luck "finding time" when they've stated they're hitting the limit of how stressed their 3D artists are in terms of workload.

[Halivel]

I never said you said you immediately, I invited you to explain. Letting male characters wear female clothes and female characters wear male clothes doubles their workload per glamour set and conflicts with male viera, female hrothgar, viera and hrothgar hats/helmets, HD textures, stubble, etc. Adding something new to the project pipeline adds to the work and resources needed to complete these projects.

Let me tell you a secret about Project Management. Every time you add a new feature you're adding extra hours and resources needed for said projects. Good luck "finding time" when they've stated they're hitting the limit of how stressed their 3D artists are in terms of workload.

Thank you, I work in a team that supports production software, I know how it works. We're dealing with very same issue regarding shortage in hands and increasing workload right at this moment.

I didn't say "Wheretver developers can work on these requests at all or when is another question" for nothing. Still - asking by itself doesn't hurt. If at some point they finally will have more budget and more people to work on rising requests - good. If they won't - sad, but world won't fall apart, and people will just continue to ask until the day of servers's eventual shutdown.