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    Player Amnmaat's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jin- View Post
    No. Men wore clothes designed to male bodies. Togas etc.. All these suit male body form. What these people are asking is to men wear clothes designed for female body type and it looks ridiculous if not even disturbing in vast majority of the cases.

    We have togas or similar in game and they fit nicely in. We have cross dressing via wedding dress and so on and they make me wish no children/teens would ever play this game
    I totally forgot about the fact that this game is rated T for Teens. For them to keep pushing this lifestyle in a game that's rated for underage children is crossing the line. If I had a child and they kept allowing men to wear dresses I would not let them play this game. Underage children should not be exposed to this lifestyle. If I was a parent I want my children to procreate, and I will do everything within my power to unsure my bloodline continues. The promotion of this lifestyle goes against that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    I totally forgot about the fact that this game is rated T for Teens. For them to keep pushing this lifestyle in a game that's rated for underage children is crossing the line. If I had a child and they kept allowing men to wear dresses I would not let them play this game. Underage children should not be exposed to this lifestyle. If I was a parent I want my children to procreate, and I will do everything within my power to unsure my bloodline continues. The promotion of this lifestyle goes against that.
    To be fair they have the disclaimer that online interactions are not rated by the ESRB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    I totally forgot about the fact that this game is rated T for Teens. For them to keep pushing this lifestyle in a game that's rated for underage children is crossing the line. If I had a child and they kept allowing men to wear dresses I would not let them play this game. Underage children should not be exposed to this lifestyle. If I was a parent I want my children to procreate, and I will do everything within my power to unsure my bloodline continues. The promotion of this lifestyle goes against that.
    Holy shit.

    Allowing male WoL to wear female attire or the other way around would not suddenly cause the world's fertility rate to drop or anything like that. Or causing your, or anyone else's, bloodline to suffer.

    Some of you are *really* overthinking this to the point where your 'concern' crosses the line to sound utterly ridiculous.

    I have no idea how you could type something like "I will do everything within my power to ensure my bloodline continues" and not blinking about how ridiculous that sounds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaughingBanana View Post
    Holy shit.

    Allowing male WoL to wear female attire or the other way around would not suddenly cause the world's fertility rate to drop or anything like that. Or causing your, or anyone else's, bloodline to suffer.

    Some of you are *really* overthinking this to the point where your 'concern' crosses the line to sound utterly ridiculous.

    I have no idea how you could type something like "I will do everything within my power to ensure my bloodline continues" and not blinking about how ridiculous that sounds.
    While I can agree that what Amnmaat said is a bit on the extreme side of things, you have to admit the ideas of "nonconforming" genders and same sex relations is becoming oversaturated in Western media and culture. It's gotten to the point where two people of the same sex cannot have a meaningful relationship outside of being lovers. See Frodo and Sam from Lord of the Rings for that. Even the Tolkien Society is pushing the idea that they were gay. It's one thing to create a piece of fiction with ideas like that in mind. It's another to shoehorn it into every aspect of everything.
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    Player Amnmaat's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaughingBanana View Post
    Holy shit.

    Allowing male WoL to wear female attire or the other way around would not suddenly cause the world's fertility rate to drop or anything like that. Or causing your, or anyone else's, bloodline to suffer.

    Some of you are *really* overthinking this to the point where your 'concern' crosses the line to sound utterly ridiculous.

    I have no idea how you could type something like "I will do everything within my power to ensure my bloodline continues" and not blinking about how ridiculous that sounds.
    Are you attacking my religious/cultural values?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    Are you attacking my religious/cultural values?
    Ironic thing to ask when gender applied on a type of clothing is purely cultural.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZedxKayn View Post
    Ironic thing to ask when gender applied on a type of clothing is purely cultural.
    I think that in itself is a matter of personal opinion and perspective.

    Some people believe it to be the case, others do not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    I think that in itself is a matter of personal opinion and perspective.

    Some people believe it to be the case, others do not.
    When a few decades back people had the exact same attitude towards women wearing pants and dressing "like men"? I disagree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZedxKayn View Post
    When a few decades back people had the exact same attitude towards women wearing pants and dressing "like men"? I disagree.
    You're free to disagree, though personally I think that is a very different situation to fictional clothing on fictional characters in an online game and that drawing comparisons to real world struggles does a major disservice to those who have been oppressed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    Are you attacking my religious/cultural values?
    Not really, just the utter ridiculousness of your comment.
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