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  1. #1
    Player
    Lauront's Avatar
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    Tristain Archambeau
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    Cerberus
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Atreides View Post
    Hey perfect compromise, genderlock stays in place and no system to blacklist certain glam.
    Now the devs have time to work on the actual content. Nice.
    Agreed, certain problems solve themselves. One waste of resources ceases, another required to deal with it vanishes in turn, too.
    (10)
    When the game's story becomes self-aware:


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    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    Cerberus
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Bright-Flower View Post
    You can petition for whatever you wish, but if you petition for an option to hide other peoples glams etc so you don't have to see them I'd in turn petition against that as I'd see it as a waste of developer resources.

    Nor do you or I speak for the developers, do you have a source for proof that the devs are being forced or coerced into adding these because of such claims?
    I don't have the specific interviews to hand, so feel free to take it with a pinch of salt...but the gist of it was that Yoshi-P expressed that the development team were uncomfortable with the idea of designing a bunny outfit for male characters. At the time, many people were asking for it to be added in a way that would make it masculine but instead we ended up getting a straight up copy of the female version of the outfit to appease the loudest voices on social media.

    The male viera thread also adopted a similar strategy, with some accusing the development team of being 'bigots' amongst other things when the gender lock was announced. Despite many people wanting a compromise in the form of a generous height slider and a masculine looking base face/muscle tone slider they were once again designed to appeal to the loudest voices on social media.

    Which is, in turn, why I no longer care to give such individuals the time of day. When there's a portion of the community pushing for feminine aesthetics so fiercely and also showing active contempt for masculine aesthetics with no desire to compromise, I have no desire to compromise in turn.
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    Feiya Harlow
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    Odin
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    Dancer Lv 100
    What is there to compromise about? It's not like the playerbase needs to come to an agreement about something and then it's presented to the devs for consideration.

    Rather than repeatedly posting in opposition of a topic and adding to the post count, why not start a thread about things you DO want to see and keep that one alive and active?

    If it gains enough traction you might actually see it happen or at least get a response, if not then maybe it wasn't such a highly requested feature after all.
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    Arya Diavolos
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    Famfrit
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    Paladin Lv 98
    We need more armor with chiseled pecs and abs like the adamantite lorica and the rising/falling dragon chest pieces.
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    Gundobald Stark
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    Goblin
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    Gladiator Lv 73
    the amount of feminine looking gear in this game is already pretty high.

    If they let male characters run around in dresses (vomit_emoji), then add some more masculine armor as well.
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    Eldevern's Avatar
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    R'lileen Min'enoth
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    Cerberus
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    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    Whatever, it is easier to accuse other people to have some kind of phobia rather than to be responsible for their own lack of taste.

    Men don't fill women clothings then the result looks weird.
    Some people adore hawaian shirts, some would never wear them.

    Personal tastes. There's not victim, no phobia, just different aesthetics senses.

    Should devs spend time for non consensual tastes? I let each one gives their own reply. For me it's no. If it's ugly it's better not to be done.
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    Kizuya Katogami
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    Cerberus
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    Conjurer Lv 81
    Quote Originally Posted by Ayuhra View Post
    What's special about them is I want to look at them.
    Agreed. I don’t see why men can’t have more revealing outfits. There’s plenty of ways of including revealing male outfits while also keeping them masculine.
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    Ayuh'ra Bajhiri
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    Mateus
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    Agreed. I don’t see why men can’t have more revealing outfits. There’s plenty of ways of including revealing male outfits while also keeping them masculine.
    Open shirts.

    I think something like an usekh collar would look very cool on male miqo'te.
    (0)

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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Bismarck
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    I do wish they altered the Thavnairian bustier in line with the (also Thavnairian) dancer job gear instead of just using the female design. Don't make it less revealing or anything, just change the top a bit, like an inverted version of having to add a bra to female versions of bare-chested designs.
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    Feiya Harlow
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    Odin
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    I totally forgot about the fact that this game is rated T for Teens. For them to keep pushing this lifestyle in a game that's rated for underage children is crossing the line. If I had a child and they kept allowing men to wear dresses I would not let them play this game. Underage children should not be exposed to this lifestyle. If I was a parent I want my children to procreate, and I will do everything within my power to unsure my bloodline continues. The promotion of this lifestyle goes against that.
    By all means, and if you're cool with the way things are in terms of gender locked gear then that's obviously on topic and fine, but there's a lot of "I don't want X I want Y instead" about different things going on.

    If people want more masculine hairstyles and glamours (which is a totally fair request) but they only ever seem to bring them up in topics about other things and then go back to quietly stewing about it, is it that surprising it's not getting much attention?
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