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    Player Amnmaat's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    I kinda agree with them though, there are items that aren't necessarily gendered, but are still genderlocked because they're part of a set - Ryne's boots and Y'shtola's feather thingies as the most recent examples.
    I gave the solution though; alt of the opposite gender.
    Thing is, the FFXIV devs keep telling us they have to cut things in order to do anything. The fact that we're only getting male viera first and female hrothgar who knows when speaks to this. We don't have time to be telling them we want boots a female npc uses. We don't get to pick and choose what gear pieces we want them to make for the opposite gender.

    As a professional company they would have to recreate the entire Ryne glam for male characters.
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    Krotoan Argaviel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    As a professional company they would have to recreate the entire Ryne glam for male characters.
    Technically this would be the responsibility of the Mog Station team as they are separate and theoretically wouldn't affect the actual dev teams progress.
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    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

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    Elja Djt-dvre
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    I assume people are misreading the recent live letter guest-starring Yoko Taro who was explicitly not serious about anything he said.
    Yoko was mainly messing around, but at the same time Yoshida didn't seem to be specifically ironical when he said that adding Pod as a mount shouldn't be too difficult, so... I wouldn't roll out the posibility of some sort of continuation completely, although it probably won't happen (any time soon, at least, given that they don't plan collabs of this scale for 6.0).

    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    I gave the solution though; alt of the opposite gender.
    It's not a solution. If somebody wants their character of a very specific gender to wear a very specfic piece of cloth, making an alt won't solve the issue at hand. At all. They will now just have two characters one of whom can't wear one type of clothes and another can't wear another type of clothes. Nothing changed, only got more headache to deal with.
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    Roda Tirhaalo
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    just guys being dudes
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    Last edited by Roda; 07-27-2021 at 12:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roda View Post

    just guys being dudes
    RDM AF looks great.

    Edit:

    Thinking about how the outfits in the OP are already in the game files makes me think they'll be another set to slip in when content it light. Like it or not, textures that already exist in game make porting to a new model much easier than creating a whole new one from scratch. Just like we have seen the pattern of dungeon gear being put in undyable only to reappear as dyable in the next expansion. Everyone remember "They can't make that gear dyable!! Think of the workload"?
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    Last edited by LisSquid; 07-27-2021 at 01:47 PM.

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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    Such attire isn't really the equivalent of a dress nor was it treated as such during the time period - and there was very much distinct differences in how men and women chose to dress back then...to say nothing of the fact that such attire was largely worn solely by those of 'importance' such as the nobility and wealthy by virtue of the materials and dyes being extremely expensive/rare.

    We're not exactly starved for fancy looking tunics and breeches in FFXIV, either - my current forum signature is proof enough of that.
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    Hikari Youko
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    Just let people wear whatever they want, even if its an attire traditionally meant to be worn by the opposite gender of the character they're playing.

    It shouldn't be a big deal, especially if the concerns are "they will look weird"--hell, people are already running around with frog, chocobo, and chicken costumes after all.
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    Jasmine Clayworth
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    You know, there is a way to request/suggest things without screaming "homophobia/transphobia!" just because you don't get what you want. Just saying.
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    Last edited by Joven; 07-27-2021 at 05:06 PM.


    Gamers don't die, we just go AFK

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    Is "making attires not genderlocked will consume massive resources to be developed" a real thing that the dev team spoke of or is it just assumption? Have the dev team spoke about this before?
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    R'lileen Min'enoth
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaughingBanana View Post
    Is "making attires not genderlocked will consume massive resources to be developed" a real thing that the dev team spoke of or is it just assumption? Have the dev team spoke about this before?
    Many people think one not gender locked attire is less work. It's the same. BUT for people who don't want some kind of crossdressing, it means they have to build an alternative design, then it's twice of work.

    Now, for Ryne dress, it's twice more work since it's a woman body based shape they have to adapt to the different male body shapes. The reason is topology, skeletons and shape keys are not the same for both genders. Copy past is not really the best idea when you work with two topologies.

    From what I know they have 19 models (NPC and playable characters), 15 for playable characters. It means for one unisex top, they have to be sure it works on 15 body shapes.
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    Last edited by Eldevern; 07-27-2021 at 06:18 PM.

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