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  1. #171
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    redheadturk's Avatar
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    Nabriales Majestic
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    Jenova
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    The trans and homophobia I have seen on this thread IMHO is actually more than a bit disgusting. Ya'll need to get with the 21st century already. There is no place for homophobes or transphobes around here, and I personally support the LGBT community 100%
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  2. #172
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    Reinha's Avatar
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Odin
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    There a different ways to handle this and some are better than others. The vast majority of players dress their female characters in feminine clothing and male characters in masculine clothing. Not gender neutral stuff or cross dressing. A solution that ignores this is a bad solution.

    School outfits (masc/fem for both) > maid and butler (masc and fem) > alphinaud outfit and hair (unisex for both) >>>>>>>> 2B outfit (fem for both and no masc option)

    Of course the school outfit is the ideal way to handle it but they aren't going to do that for all glamours. That leads to less wearable options. The bunny set looks like crap on males and we got that instead of a nice Chippendale bunny set. The wedding dress doesn't bother me because there is a male suit as well. See where I'm going with this?
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  3. #173
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    Hexinas Desharot
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    Quote Originally Posted by redheadturk View Post
    The trans and homophobia I have seen on this thread IMHO is actually more than a bit disgusting. Ya'll need to get with the 21st century already. There is no place for homophobes or transphobes around here, and I personally support the LGBT community 100%
    Well good for you Timmy.
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  4. #174
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    Lihtleita's Avatar
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    Lihtleita Lonstyrmwyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    And there's the problem, you're gonna double the dev's development cycle with this kind of request. When you want Ryne's shoes, the other side that wants women to use men's clothes will want Thancred's boots.

    The solution they will/probably/should give to this request is to make an alt of the opposite gender when the need arises.
    There are many times I want to play as a lalafel, so I then go ahead and make an alt.
    wow i cant believe theres such a difference inbetween a male miqote and female miqotes foot model. I could have sworn the only major areas that need custom re-modeling were the chest and upper arms. /s

    seriously theres more of a difference between male roegadyn and male miqote than there is between male and female miqote, the obvious solution is for everything except lalafell to be deleted so the devs only have to model one gearset period
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  5. #175
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    van_arn's Avatar
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    Van Arn
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    Goblin
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    I’d rather see new glamour rather than retrofitted glamour.
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  6. #176
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    Arya Diavolos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lihtleita View Post
    wow i cant believe theres such a difference inbetween a male miqote and female miqotes foot model. I could have sworn the only major areas that need custom re-modeling were the chest and upper arms. /s

    seriously theres more of a difference between male roegadyn and male miqote than there is between male and female miqote, the obvious solution is for everything except lalafell to be deleted so the devs only have to model one gearset period
    SE looking at the aftermath of all races except Lala being deleted.

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  7. #177
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    Lihtleita's Avatar
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    Lihtleita Lonstyrmwyn
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    slight double post because I feel I should elaborate, making a gearset usable by both genders does not "double the workload"

    concept art can be reused
    textures can be reused
    helmet can be reused
    gloves can be resused
    boots can be reused
    trousers can be reused

    the only thing that has to be remodeled is the chest piece, and even that has to be done anyway in the case of female roegadyn and lalafell, who can't use the midlander models of their respective gender without alteration.
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  8. #178
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    Ultaniku's Avatar
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    Jojo Ryder
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    Famfrit
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    Quote Originally Posted by TTiscancer View Post
    Maybe.... I dunno, don't buy female outfits if you play male character? I mean, that would *seem* like the logical thing to do, right? RIGHT?
    Like I said, I didn’t want the dress. I simply said I like the shoes and would have enjoyed being able to use them. Her shoes also don’t overtly scream “female” anyway. But to my point I said WOULD HAVE enjoyed them.
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    Last edited by Ultaniku; 07-25-2021 at 06:35 AM.

  9. #179
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    Novia Marius
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    Balmung
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Lihtleita View Post
    slight double post because I feel I should elaborate, making a gearset usable by both genders does not "double the workload"

    concept art can be reused
    textures can be reused
    helmet can be reused
    gloves can be resused
    boots can be reused
    trousers can be reused

    the only thing that has to be remodeled is the chest piece, and even that has to be done anyway in the case of female roegadyn and lalafell, who can't use the midlander models of their respective gender without alteration.
    Femroes use fem midlander. Females only have 2 bases, middie and lala. Males are middie, male lala, male roe.
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  10. #180
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    Mother Kos
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    Hyperion
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    Something something small indie company.

    Jokes aside, I don't think we're going to see anything different from what we always get. Neutral gear with annoying detail changes between genders. Locked glams and continued feminine skewed neutral looks. Getting male viera and female hrothgar will not have changed this, especially when we're playing the side of developer time invested. It takes way less time to design neutral gear than it is to do the proposed styles of glamour on all gear.

    And, again. The male viera thread was an exception, not the rule. We're all just screaming into the void over here in no-mans land. Mods allowing troll threads to stay up for weeks shows this. It's also highly unlikely that Twitter is pulling as much sway as the tin-foil hats would like to believe. As someone mentioned here: This is a JP company, and SE probably pools more concern around what JP players want.

    To be honest, the real glamour that should be unlocked is between jobs. I suspect a lot more people would be appeased if we enjoyed the kind of fashion freedom that exists on the Korean client.
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