STOP Genderlocking Cosmetics!!

[Lihtleita]

slight double post because I feel I should elaborate, making a gearset usable by both genders does not "double the workload"

concept art can be reused
textures can be reused
helmet can be reused
gloves can be resused
boots can be reused
trousers can be reused

the only thing that has to be remodeled is the chest piece, and even that has to be done anyway in the case of female roegadyn and lalafell, who can't use the midlander models of their respective gender without alteration.

[Rokke]

slight double post because I feel I should elaborate, making a gearset usable by both genders does not "double the workload"

concept art can be reused
textures can be reused
helmet can be reused
gloves can be resused
boots can be reused
trousers can be reused

the only thing that has to be remodeled is the chest piece, and even that has to be done anyway in the case of female roegadyn and lalafell, who can't use the midlander models of their respective gender without alteration.

Femroes use fem midlander. Females only have 2 bases, middie and lala. Males are middie, male lala, male roe.

[Amnmaat]

pls enlighten me on which one of my statements is wrong. does a helmet change depending on which version of miqote is wearing it?

Because helmets/hats is what the majority of crossdressing people really want?
You would have to recreate everything for the opposite gender in 4 different ways. The system does not automatically adjust it without the 3D artists first recreating them.

male to male
male to female
female to female
female to male

That doubles their workload. They wouldn't just be required to recreate Ryne's boots, they would be required, as a professional company to recreate the entire Oracle (Ryne) glamour set for males, and by extension they would have to recreate whatever males get (Exarch?) for females as well.

That's double the work.

[LisSquid]

Something something small indie company.

Jokes aside, I don't think we're going to see anything different from what we always get. Neutral gear with annoying detail changes between genders. Locked glams and continued feminine skewed neutral looks. Getting male viera and female hrothgar will not have changed this, especially when we're playing the side of developer time invested. It takes way less time to design neutral gear than it is to do the proposed styles of glamour on all gear.

And, again. The male viera thread was an exception, not the rule. We're all just screaming into the void over here in no-mans land. Mods allowing troll threads to stay up for weeks shows this. It's also highly unlikely that Twitter is pulling as much sway as the tin-foil hats would like to believe. As someone mentioned here: This is a JP company, and SE probably pools more concern around what JP players want.

To be honest, the real glamour that should be unlocked is between jobs. I suspect a lot more people would be appeased if we enjoyed the kind of fashion freedom that exists on the Korean client.

[MikkoAkure]

pls enlighten me on which one of my statements is wrong. does a helmet change depending on which version of miqote is wearing it?

Wouldn’t men have longer feet and thicker arms?

Regardless, I’m not sure why people haven’t learned that after almost a decade of NPC-based outfits locked to the gender of the NPC it came from, they haven’t heeded the complaints in the forums so it’s not going to change. If they can’t bother to make the outfits dyeable, they’re not going to model them across the gender gap.

[Lihtleita]

Wouldn’t men have longer feet and thicker arms?

Regardless, I’m not sure why people haven’t learned that after almost a decade of NPC-based outfits locked to the gender of the NPC it came from, they haven’t heeded the complaints in the forums so it’s not going to change. If they can’t bother to make the outfits dyeable, they’re not going to model them across the gender gap.

I thought that too with female roegadyns thicker arms and legs being more like a male model than a female midlanders, which is why I assumed they had their own model. The kind people here informed me I was mistaken, so somehow midlander models can adjust to different proportions to some degree.

Incidentally, I may have a friend who might have hypothetically just tested putting the scion rogues garb on a female viera successfully, with the only adjustment needed being the chest size. Hypothetically of course.

edit: for fairness same friend may have put the lightning set on a male highlander, again the set was near perfect apart from the chest area, where there were some texture issues. Legs, gloves and boots actually looked really good considering the set was scaling up in size instead of down. hypothetically. in minecraft.

[Elissar]

Keep gender lock!
There is no reason to let FFXIV psychodelic. Let genders and races have their own identity.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Keep gender lock!
There is no reason to let FFXIV psychodelic. Let genders and races have their own identity.

When Uniqueness and Diversity Dies, nothing is Special.

[Hazama999]

Keep gender lock!
There is no reason to let FFXIV psychodelic. Let genders and races have their own identity.

I, for one, am all for gender unlocking of gear, but can also see why they wouldn't "just do it." There are likely a good deal of logistical and/or technical reasons, and those would sound reasonable to me.

That said, the quoted comment is one that I find rather baffling (more so with the number of likes it got) because it assumes that something like "identity" hinges on whether or not a character can, say, wear jeans but not a skirt.

[Roda]

A man wanting to dress femininely does not take away my own femininity. Just like me cutting my hair short didn't obliterate the concept of masculinity.
I'd say letting people have their own identity is more important. My gender is a label, it doesn't have the capacity to want or experience anything, and it's certainly not so fragile that I could lose grip on it by seeing a woman in a slick suit, or a man in some rockin' heels, or a nonbinary person doin' their thing.