Why can't y'all remember noob vs newb/newbie

[Dragonblanco]

Just because someones somewhere decided that the different spellings had meaning other than "this is how I like to spell it" doesn't mean people are using it "wrong".

Newbie=nub=noob=n00b

Never was that way. It's like saying read = reed. Or tea = tee. Or pee = pea. Capital = capitol.

They are spelled different and are very different words. It always had different meanings. They still have different meanings. You'll even still see people use noob as an insult. But at the same time, go and use it in a friendly way for someone who just started the game. It's just ignorance I'd say overall. Though to be fair, it's done with words all the time. Such as people who can't tell the difference between there, their, and they're.

[Krotoan]

Never was that way. It's like saying read = reed. Or tea = tee. Or pee = pea. Capital = capitol.
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As someone who's been around since before the internet. Yes it is.

I have seen them being used interchangeably since people could send text.
Newbie always meant new person or suggesting inexperience. This turned into noob as people decided they didn't want to type 2 more characters. Then it was n00b to get around word filters or type in leetspeak. Then the final lazy nub.
It's not like they have grammatical roots. They're just words people made up to mean Newbie.

[Dragonblanco]

As someone who's been around since before the internet. Yes it is.

I have seen them being used interchangeably since people could send text.
Newbie always meant new person or suggesting inexperience. This turned into noob as people decided they didn't want to type 2 more characters. Then it was n00b to get around word filters or type in leetspeak. Then the final lazy nub.
It's not like they have grammatical roots. They're just words people made up to mean Newbie.

Well, I have a bunch of articles and forums posted for you to check out. See, opinions are like buttholes...we all have one. But facts are something you can't change just because you want to think or feel differently. I'm not a young person either, and have been into gaming and other circuits for quite some time. Newbie turned into newb when didn't want to type those 2 extra characters. People got tired of people who thought they knew everything but was wrong, such as you in this thread. We'd have people who would talk like they could hack a lot, were experts, etc but just talked out of their butts. When people tried to help them, they kept these inflated ego and weren't willing to learn or change. Thus where noob was used to differentiate.

What we can say is that languages are always alive and meanings change. And what we can also say is just because you've seen people use terms in the wrong way doesn't mean it was correct. We can have a bunch of people come in here and tell you that they were abducted by aliens, but would that make it true? Or if people all came in here and said you're a moron, does that mean it's right? So yeah, even saying "I've seen them being used interchangeably" doesn't mean anything opposite of what I said. It just means you're saying the problem has been ongoing on lots of people don't know the difference...which circles back around to my question of why people are misusing terms?

[Bacent]

Yup, there sure are semantics going on here.

It's more worrying that people don't know the basics of grammar and which word means what (Seen people mix up waist and waste in game before), but lets go with one that's mainly heavily used in gaming situations.

Well, I have a bunch of articles and forums posted for you to check out.

Starting any post like this feels really... cringy...

It reads like someone on facebook trying to force people into a lesson on what they think. *cough cough*

[Dragonblanco]

Yup, there sure are semantics going on here.

It's more worrying that people don't know the basics of grammar and which word means what (Seen people mix up waist and waste in game before), but lets go with one that's mainly heavily used in gaming situations.




Starting any post like this feels really... cringy...

It reads like someone on facebook trying to force people into a lesson on what they think. *cough cough*

I keep trying to find balance. Others tell me I end up with a wall of text and all, so things often go unread. Other aspect, those links, were there just for people like the one who initially responded, who always want to go with personal feelings instead of facts. So if they feel it necessary, they look. Otherwise see the point I made that they are different and asking why. I thought I did good in keeping it short compared to my long typical comments, kind of got right to the point, etc.

[Krotoan]

opinions are like buttholes...we all have one.

This is your original post masterfully summed up.

. And what we can also say is just because you've seen people use terms in the wrong way doesn't mean it was correct

Precisely what I said in the first place.

even saying "I've seen them being used interchangeably" doesn't mean anything opposite of what I said. It just means you're saying the problem has been ongoing on lots of people don't know the difference...which circles back around to my question of why people are misusing terms?

Not" I've seen them being used interchangeably. ". I have watched their use branch and grow into what you call "definitions" now. Sure they might mean all that gobbledygook up there now because people have decided there's a difference, but in the way back when machine, that stuff is all the same and getting worked up over someone using the wrong "newb-nub-noob-n00b" and then comparing it to their-there-they're is pretty ridiculous.

Everyday someone takes a normal word and decides it means something else.

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Sure.. language evolves. This doesn't mean though that people are using things "wrong". They're just working on their particular regions or circles definition. You wanna argue whether something is coke or pop or soda or sodapop or whatever.. I guess go ahead, but telling everyone else they're "wrong"is pretty pompous.

[Iscah]

What we can say is that languages are always alive and meanings change. And what we can also say is just because you've seen people use terms in the wrong way doesn't mean it was correct. We can have a bunch of people come in here and tell you that they were abducted by aliens, but would that make it true?

Language does evolve, and that's why there's no point arguing an old distinction between newbie and noob. They converged many moons ago.

And "falsely claiming something happened" has nothing to do with "using a word to mean something different to what it would in the past", so your example doesn't make sense.

If one person alone is using a word wrong so people don't understand what they mean, it's wrong.

If they use it in a new way that other people understand, it's an evolution of the word.

I would still personally make the distinction, but it's not worth arguing over the fact that other people don't see a difference in the terms, especially if it's clear from context what they mean.