EDIT FOR CLARITY. This is not a 'why am I being harassed' and answers of 'just blacklist them' are proof you ignored the post or just skimmed it. This is 'why are the GMs ignoring that, while instead 2 weeks ago applying a penalty on my account for something I haven't done in over a year, and even then I didn't do it lightly.'
I've been dealing with harassment for a while now. Not just people openly seeking me out explicitly to give me trouble, argue with everything I say just because it's be saying it...but up to, and including, getting actual death threats, a person who is *still an active, paid subscription* as of this moment told me they would packet sniff my location, make my life hell, kill my family and kill me. Their exact words included 'fight me irl tough guy' 'Stfu b4 I come kill u' 'Wyat's your address' 'I'll found out where you live. Youl like me right' 'How many children do you have' 'Wife?' 'A dox should tell me' 'I'm gonna make your life hell'.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...31/unknown.png
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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...90/unknown.png
There, with names hidden for obvious reasons, hence the...broken up nature I had someone else's tell mixed into that..
This sort of thing? Allowed. That person is still there. The person who has spent a year and a half, near two years, randomly attacking me, going to my friends-in game no less-to try and get them to stop being friends with me, to try and get me removed from groups, the multitudes of people who've sent me screenshots of this person going into groups to trash talk me, the times they've gone ingame and mocked my dead family, tried to get me to 'forgive them because that's what my grandfather(now dead, one of the only family members I cared to listen to for much of my life) would want, repeatedly and deliberately used alts to bypass my blacklist, multiple community members have attempted to negotiate peace to get the constant public attacks to stop because SE has refused to act to prevent this...that person is still here.
Now I've been told by a GM I have a warning on my account for...invalid use of vote kick? I haven't SEEN a vote kick in six months. I haven't initiated one in well over a year. Last one I saw was a dps votekicking a tank in aurum vale who was in sub-hall of the novice gear and spewing racial slurs along with telling the rest of us to stop being s*** and do better. After waiting two weeks on appealing, they..upheld it. What the hell is going on with GM staff? Why are open death threats and repeated use of alts to harass and bypass blacklist when it was explicitly stated I do not want to talk to them allowed...but I get a warning for something I didn't even do?
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07-23-2021 07:23 AM #1Player
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Harassment+death threats allowed...warning for thing I didn't do upheld?
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07-23-2021 07:53 AM #2Player
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Sorry if blind, but I don't see the wording that you reported them Edit for context by OP* - you did report them via the GM feature right? Clearly you've been reported, for some vote kick at some point, but it wasn't clear to me that you reported this individual yourself, with details on what they did of course. It's good you tried blacklists and such, which is a good start but clearly ineffective against this determined individual.
Obviously we've only one side but one caution would be if you return this behavior that the GM would see that and then you'll both win tickets to Azkaban, so make sure to not reciprocate (not accusing you that you did, but a note of caution).
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07-23-2021 07:57 AM #3Player
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For the kick, the GMs have the logs when things happen, so something might have happened that you don't remember. All I can say really, as GMs will never tell you the infraction or the like. Heck, you can't fight to see evidence either.
As for the other issue, have you brought it up with the law enforcement in your state/country? Or maybe talked to a lawyer in your state?
To also add, I looked at the first picture you posted and you should have blocked them and NOT engage with them. Remember THEY can also report YOU for harassment in game.
I'm looking online and found an interesting article you might want to look at. It's from 2019: https://www.vice.com/en/article/qv7y...no-one-can-see
So what do you do if you receive a death threat?
First, it’s important to remember this point from J. Reid Meloy: “Most communicated threats are not acted upon.” But this doesn’t mean they should be brushed off. Lee said that, because a person can’t live under the stress of constant threats for long periods, getting yourself to a safe physical place ought to be a top priority.
Secondly, Meloy emphasized that if you receive a threat, you should contact the authorities and preserve any evidence. Screenshot the text or tweet; save the letter, email, or voicemail. While death threats are the subject of free-speech debates, and the standards for prosecution may vary from state to state, they’re generally not legal. (Meloy’s exact words were: “You can’t go around homicidally threatening people.”) Local authorities may also be able to help you understand how much actual risk a threat carries.
The other part of the equation is getting your life back—and your healthy mind, too. Online hate mobs are frequent enough that one journalist who has experienced them, Talia Lavin, produced a bookmark-worthy guide to weathering that kind of psychological storm. Experts also said that you should certainly consider reaching out to a mental health professional. Lee said that, since threats to one’s life can trigger dissociative reactions and potentially lead to lingering issues like memory loss, anxiety, or depression, “Having someone to speak to, preferably a mental health expert, would help to put things in perspective and to detect warning signs early."
Warren said that one of the keys to getting back to normal is drawing up and implementing safety precautions aimed at controlling that “What if?” thinking that can be so poisonous. “It’s that creation of uncertainty that gives your threatener power over you. Because the more you are sitting there thinking, ‘What if they do this? What if they do that?’ [then] the threat’s worked,” she said.
She also stressed the importance for threat recipients of remembering that what happened isn’t their fault. “You’ve had an act of violence committed against you and never, ever is it something that you’ve done wrong, that you deserve, that you had coming,” she said. “This is how another person has chosen to communicate.”(5)Last edited by AngelCheese77; 07-23-2021 at 08:00 AM.
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07-23-2021 07:59 AM #4Player
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Reports on vote kicking. SMH. So ridiculous that anyone could receive any kind of punishment for such an innocuous action.
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07-23-2021 08:01 AM #5Player
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Particularly when I DO NOT VOTE KICK AND HAVE NOT IN OVER A YEAR
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07-23-2021 08:03 AM #6Player
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Yes, reported. No effect they're still just as active as ever doing it. Which is all well and good but..WHY IS THERE A WARNING ON MY ACCOUNT FOR SOMETHING I HAVEN'T DONE FOR A YEAR.
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07-23-2021 08:09 AM #7Player
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This somehow feels like a thread meant to start arguments. Guessing because there's a lot of things that don't make sense in it. For example, why didn't you block/ignore them? Why not report them to GM and have people who send you those screenshots also report it to GM? Heck, it you took it seriously at all, you could always have filed a police report. At least the latter could help, especially with how many times there have been people who ended up placing false reports in and police storm houses of gamers.
Originally Posted by Verendal
More importantly though, you were sitting there arguing and fighting back. Ffs...let's look at screenshots you showed. There's > which is person you're complaining about and then there's "r" which is you.
So it starts off with them saying "f you"
Then you say take it up with GMs.
They tell you not to mock them.
You tell them to stop doing things to be mocked.
They say "fight me in real life tough guy"
You say you don't do irl fighting
He calls you a pus$%#
You say "I have friends hit them over the head and let cops drag them off!""
etc.....
Basically. you're both little kids and doing things that should get both of your accounts suspended. But in what you showed, it looks like you were the bully and were instigating the problem. Don't forget, they can look into chat records and all. So if you indeed are the troublemaker, I'd stop making a scene with it.(11)Last edited by Dragonblanco; 07-23-2021 at 08:17 AM.
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Curious how you're more worked up over the mark on your account than someone threatening your life.
Originally Posted by Verendal
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07-23-2021 08:11 AM #9Player
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If they're still active, still threatening and harassing, and you did then that's a bit . . . unfortunate. . . .
Originally Posted by Verendal
Assuming the whole narrative is accurately portrayed (not meant as an insult, it's just it should be common practice to assume one side of the story, as forums, reddit, whatever, have been mislead before)- assuming that, then personally every time they did some of the stuff I saw in these texts I'd just report that incident for the day. New account, new report, break in time and they come back a few hours later? New report.
If this is one sided death threats I can't imagine GMs would find that acceptable, and if for some reason you got one that was okay with it, the amount of truthful and fair reports being made one of them would see it. Also potentially the person is getting punishments which is why they partly get around your blacklist, or the GMs are just working up to longer punishments and just need more fuel to the cannons to use it. Also difficult to imagine as my, albeit few, experiences with reports have been both speedy, kind, and imo logical.
For the warnings, I don't know about in game, but I know here from people who have been banned that those things stick around (some sort of minor infraction forgiveness system might be nice. . ). So if it's like here, then I wouldn't be surprised if that's just part of the account log they read when they check your account now.
Hopefully the threats will cease, and hopefully you're choosing to not to reciprocate that individual (or didn't start it. . . ). If the GMs see something like that then like I said they'll likely enact punishments on both sides, as I've even been told before by a GM. When I reported a person for purposefully leeching in PvP while also talking down to other players, and proving they were in chat (so it wasn't hard to check, since they admitted to it), the GM asked before they investigate if I said anything that could cause myself issues as when they investigate they were going to read the whole log. Of course I didn't, general philosophy is if you're going to report something you shouldn't quote / feed it (if it's that bad then you shouldn't be propagating it yourself lol).(2)Last edited by Shougun; 07-23-2021 at 08:18 AM.
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Originally Posted by Verendal
... So what were you mocking them for?
(this does not imply I am OK with death threats, stop typing)(2)
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