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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    What ambiguous lore? We're partway through the story still; it would be stranger if there weren't still some unsolved mysteries.

    I'm honestly confused what would be offputting about it.
    They’re talking about the lore behind the term beastman, I believe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moogly900 View Post
    Not much reason really. Just very disinterested with the game and it's ambiguous lore. Thinking in going back to ESO.
    I alternate between both FFXIV and ESO, personally. FFXIV scratches my itch in terms of combat, though I've been disappointed with the direction of the story for a while now, especially with the excessive hero worship, the lack of lasting consequences for the protagonists, the Scions and City State leaders overstaying their welcome and genuinely compelling/morally grey characters being shuffled away/killed off.

    ESO simply has a bigger, more immersive game world to me. I don't like the combat nearly as much in it, though. So FFXIV wins on that front. (Though at the same time, being able to sneak around and steal stuff from NPC's is pretty satisfying and something I wish we could do in FFXIV...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    What ambiguous lore? We're partway through the story still; it would be stranger if there weren't still some unsolved mysteries.

    I'm honestly confused what would be offputting about it.
    Have you not seen the OP's whinging in their lore forum thread?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    I alternate between both FFXIV and ESO, personally. FFXIV scratches my itch in terms of combat, though I've been disappointed with the direction of the story for a while now, especially with the excessive hero worship, the lack of lasting consequences for the protagonists, the Scions and City State leaders overstaying their welcome and genuinely compelling/morally grey characters being shuffled away/killed off.

    ESO simply has a bigger, more immersive game world to me. I don't like the combat nearly as much in it, though. So FFXIV wins on that front. (Though at the same time, being able to sneak around and steal stuff from NPC's is pretty satisfying and something I wish we could do in FFXIV...)
    The only thing ESO has going for it is 5 main titles, a couple mobile games, some series spinoffs and such backing it's lore up, and I'm not a fan of ESO being canon because it's just absurd fan service and retcons existing stuff to make it's BS fit.

    I detest retcons and the lore in ESO is squiffy at best.

    That said, the elder scrolls series *is* bigger, if only because each game in the FF series for the most part, are individual stories independent of each other. Never played a FF game? That's fine, don't need to!

    To appreciate TES games you need to play all of them. Which I have. Embarrassingly enough.
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    If I were you I'd cancel my sub but not my account. But hey, you do you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    I alternate between both FFXIV and ESO, personally. FFXIV scratches my itch in terms of combat, though I've been disappointed with the direction of the story for a while now, especially with the excessive hero worship, the lack of lasting consequences for the protagonists, the Scions and City State leaders overstaying their welcome and genuinely compelling/morally grey characters being shuffled away/killed off.

    ESO simply has a bigger, more immersive game world to me. I don't like the combat nearly as much in it, though. So FFXIV wins on that front. (Though at the same time, being able to sneak around and steal stuff from NPC's is pretty satisfying and something I wish we could do in FFXIV...)
    I do get an itch for ESO from time to time. But last few years I read the cash shop has gotten so bad and server support seems to be minimal hence there is a lot of server lag. is this true?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moogly900 View Post
    Not much reason really. Just very disinterested with the game and it's ambiguous lore. Thinking in going back to ESO.
    Just skip the cutscenes and try the endgame. FFXIV is not all about lore. I myself started skipping cutscenes because too much content is being locked behind MSQ. I initially didn't mind the story and I was watching cutscenes, some were boring others were a little bit more interesting, those were usually at the end of an expansion. I started skipping because I was already level 80 WHM just from doing dailies and I was at level 51 MSQ. For heavenward I watched only those with voice acting. For Stormblood I skipped all. For Shb - cutscenes with voice acting again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garet View Post
    I do get an itch for ESO from time to time. But last few years I read the cash shop has gotten so bad and server support seems to be minimal hence there is a lot of server lag. is this true?
    I haven't noticed much lag myself. Though I play on the European megaserver so it might be different elsewhere. I also tend to play in short bursts, logging on to do a quest or two every once in a while so I can soak up all the lore/thoroughly explore the environment for each area.

    I dislike the cash shop being the way that it is, especially with how many offers are limited in their availability but FFXIV isn't immune to that - it just locks such items behind merchandise with special bonus codes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Imora View Post
    The only thing ESO has going for it is 5 main titles, a couple mobile games, some series spinoffs and such backing it's lore up, and I'm not a fan of ESO being canon because it's just absurd fan service and retcons existing stuff to make it's BS fit.

    I detest retcons and the lore in ESO is squiffy at best.

    That said, the elder scrolls series *is* bigger, if only because each game in the FF series for the most part, are individual stories independent of each other. Never played a FF game? That's fine, don't need to!

    To appreciate TES games you need to play all of them. Which I have. Embarrassingly enough.
    I guess the retcons don't bother me much because FFXIV has done the same thing - such as the handling of Garlemald and merging it with the Ascian story rather than allowing it to exist as its own thing. Or how there's now suddenly a cure for Tempering and Primals are even less of a threat than they've been for a while.

    If one of the upcoming MMO's happens to do well and takes its story more seriously and consistently, I'll likely swap one or both current MMO's out for that.
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  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Or how there's now suddenly a cure for Tempering and Primals are even less of a threat than they've been for a while.
    Gotta make room for new threats, whatever they may be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
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    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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    Just delete the sub, no need to delete account. I wouldn't just in case you want to come back someday.

    Meanwhile enjoy your time in ESO. I'm slowly working on a magicka nightblade to solo content for some reason.
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