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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurida View Post
    I will ask for them and proceed to not get them because I recognize that my opinions about arbitrarily discontinued rewards are not shared by the game developers
    They weren't arbitrarily discontinued.

    They were discontinued because the content needed to unlock them got destroyed when they relaunched the game. They just put in the tools for legacy players to get the titles they had earned in 1.0 when 2.0 launched.

    And as part of a huge thank you to the players that stuck with them despite how bad the game was and what other people likely thought of them for continuing to play the game, they left that content out of the game to keep some things exclusive to legacy players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurida View Post
    I will ask for them and proceed to not get them because I recognize that my opinions about arbitrarily discontinued rewards are not shared by the game developers
    nor is the opinion shared by a lot of your fellow gamers... people like me, who came on the scene for good long after 1.0

    as someone pointed out, the content these achievement no longer exists. there is little "arbitrary" about it.

    but maybe you should also receive a World War 1 Victory medal, I mean it too was arbitrarily discontinued

    I apologize for being a bit snippy, but asking for things like this just seems... disrespectful and unrealistic. you missed out, best thing to do is stand up, nod, and move forward to things you CAN get.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    but maybe you should also receive a World War 1 Victory medal, I mean it too was arbitrarily discontinued

    you missed out, best thing to do is stand up, nod, and move forward to things you CAN get.
    It is really funny to read all these reasons why it should stay exclusive, but as soon as somebody uses the same reasons for PvP Ranked Seasons, they will be wrong ofc. Nice double standards
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    Quote Originally Posted by Commander_Justitia View Post
    It is really funny to read all these reasons why it should stay exclusive, but as soon as somebody uses the same reasons for PvP Ranked Seasons, they will be wrong ofc. Nice double standards
    I would argue it isn't really the same thing, as feast rewards tend to be dominated by a small set of players actively preventing others from getting them, and the rewards themselves are limited in number, while legacy rewards were literally available to everyone.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Commander_Justitia View Post
    It is really funny to read all these reasons why it should stay exclusive, but as soon as somebody uses the same reasons for PvP Ranked Seasons, they will be wrong ofc. Nice double standards
    I'll boldy claim the same for both systems.
    But you can't in good faith equate the two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramesses View Post
    Do not dare "trivialize" those achievements-- a good number of them were insane to get.
    I appreciate the righteous indignation that's on display here, but also that's just, like, my opinion, man. I do not have a high opinion of 1.x or any gameplay contained therein. It is, meanwhile, a relief to know that the achievement system back then was equally as bad as the one we have now, given that some of the most 'non-trivial' achievements were apparently locked behind doing trivial things a non-trivial amount of times, as it continues to be now. Also, a mapping achievement? I know the 1.x maps were a travesty but man.

    I don't know how continuing to put playtime into a game they were in the process of mercy killing or responding to their development processes on the forums constitute a meaningful part of 'support,' but as stated I fully recognize that my opinion on this matter is not one that is shared by the developers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Seera1024 View Post
    They were discontinued because the content needed to unlock them got destroyed when they relaunched the game. They just put in the tools for legacy players to get the titles they had earned in 1.0 when 2.0 launched.
    I think something like this happened with some of the Diadem achievements once too and they were re-worked into ones requiring a certain exploratory score? Of course, that's not the best example given that A) they later simply lobotomized the place completely and B) re-working things in this manner takes time and effort that would pretty much apparently be spitting in the face of people who fulfilled the things during 1.x.

    But in the case of ones which are similar I don't think there's a meaningful difference, honestly?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurida View Post
    I do not have a high opinion of 1.x or any gameplay contained therein.
    I don't know how continuing to put playtime into a game they were in the process of mercy killing or responding to their development processes on the forums constitute a meaningful part of 'support,' but as stated I fully recognize that my opinion on this matter is not one that is shared by the developers.
    I am not required to be respectful or realistic
    Aaah.

    Quibble, after quibble, after quibble from you-- and yet you refuse to display respect for others' views, refuse to be realistic, and still stubbornly maintain a sense of entitlement for obtaining Legacy achievements. Perhaps you're just baiting and trying to rile up the forum to increase your post count?

    Allow me to bring you to reality and dispel any lingering disillusions you might still have before I officially ignore you...

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    Last edited by Ramesses; 07-22-2021 at 02:10 PM.
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    I have three alts that have the Ravens from the event itself that do not have the replica title on them that got put on when they were shoved to the mog. And I have no intention of heeding anyone who complains about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    I apologize for being a bit snippy, but asking for things like this just seems... disrespectful and unrealistic. you missed out, best thing to do is stand up, nod, and move forward to things you CAN get.
    I am not required to be respectful or realistic, and I do think that if there was a way to demonstrate a current level of ability and proficiency and exercise an amount of effort equal to that required to win world war 1 that I should have said medal, in this metaphor. After all it should be relatively trivial to unsync with our current stats
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurida View Post
    I am not required to be respectful or realistic, and I do think that if there was a way to demonstrate a current level of ability and proficiency and exercise an amount of effort equal to that required to win world war 1 that I should have said medal, in this metaphor. After all it should be relatively trivial to unsync with our current stats
    my apologies, you are right of course. perhaps you could also add stomping around, slamming doors and holding your breath to your activities until they cave and give it to you?
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