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    Quote Originally Posted by Roeshel View Post


    Is this the general understanding of what hardcore players and statics are? Seems a bit too extreme for me and rather unhealthy for the mind and body alike.

    Also, If you have to invest 10 hours or even more to clear a raid tier as a static on week 1, doesn't this mean that the players are slow learners? I by no means claim to be a fast learner but it is just strange for me that someone who needs 10h+ to learn ten mins scripted fight expects fast learners to join him. If 10hours is fast then what is considered slow? Are the savage raids on week 1 that hard? I really want to find out.
    I can see this being the standard for week one or work first groups, especially with ultimate taking time off from work is not unheard of. Generally the extreme aspect is probably relative to the group I know of some players in other games that would think 10+ hours is rather lax while others it is extreme. Depends on the person and many other factor.
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    Last edited by Awha; 07-24-2021 at 04:15 AM.

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    Jye Greene
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    I knew someone who told me they did 16 hour ultimate prog days. 5 days a week. He lost his gilrfriend and one static member was at risk of losing their leg.

    Don't do games, kids.
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    Aelin Ashriver
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    Hardcore varies depending what stage of life you are on I feel.. A young teen on holidays can easily put 10h+ in. Or I guess if you are unemployed there is that too! I always found MMO players version of harcore always took more hours due to the nature of the genre as well.
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    Tlachtga Ereshkigal
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    its more of a mindset or approach to fights rather than time invested.

    that 10 hrs a day is normal in XIV for world first groups, and some week 1 groups. it sounds very extreme, but generally these groups only need 1-3 days to kill a raid tier.
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    Princess Whiskers
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    An easy way to identify that I personally prefer:

    HC means the group wants to begin day 1 and clear everything by the end of day 7.

    MC means the group wants to begin day 1 and clear everything in the first month.

    Casual means everything else.

    I know that's not exactly how recruiters use them, but that's how I see it.
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    Van Arn
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    If you’re not putting in the time or hours for a week 1 clear, you’re not hardcore for that tier. No exceptions.
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    Last edited by van_arn; 07-25-2021 at 08:48 AM.

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    Back in wow during the Wrath expansion there was an raid encounter called “Three Drake” it was an achievement that basically made the encounter very difficult. At the time it was considered the hardest achievement in the game.

    My guild was in a race with another guild for server first. Yeah we basically raided 8+ hours a night to get it done. We made server first and it was so not worth it.
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