



This. When new raids come out in WoW, the people racing for world first book days off and stay up all day and all night raiding over the weekend and into the week until they finish. It's a marathon.Yeah that sounds about right. Welcome to week 1 raiding. I would never do something like that so I do not consider myself a hardcore raider. It's so odd how people think people who do ultimate or w/e are hardcore but in reality, what ever is shown in OP is what HC raiding really is.





They can both be hardcore.
Just like how someone who only dabbles in late savage well after it's been all figured out could be a casual, and someone who thinks 24 man raids are too hard and only runs dungeons is casual.





As much as I enjoy raiding and XIV, I would never join a static like that.
I much prefer a chill raiding environment, stressing over fast clears isn't for me.




I week 1 pugged Savage in solo que at 4 hours a day so if they need 10 something is weird...
Everyone's definition of HC is a little different, but my they seem to be on an extreme end...
Unless they're racing for the clear (which it doesn't sound like since they're talking about split clearing on ALTs) there's really no need for that brutal timetable.
Last edited by ItMe; 07-22-2021 at 05:13 AM.
I have been in HC static during SB/ShB and I still consider myself as a casual (I raid a lot during a few days per year, and beside those periods I log 3 hours a week for the weeklies), Unsubbed till Februrary, recently came back in game and will unsub in two weeks
I learned recently that what this game's community considers HC, and what MMOs consider HC is pretty different. HC here typically refers to 'skill level' and not much emphasis on time invested. HC in other games usually just refers to time invested, as in the picture you used. I don't think this time investment lasts indefinitely, once the tier is cleared you just meet up to clear for the week and leave.





Maybe world firsts so they're taking time off work and such? Some folks here do that I believe.
And it says 10+ hours but not how many nights. So it may not be an every night thing.
From the schedules of my friends who do Savage, this does seem a little extreme if it's every night, unless they are pushing really really hard for world firsts. This reminds me of my EQ raiding days. I guess that warped me a bit because 10+ hours doesn't raise my eyebrows that much O_O



10 hours a day!? F to those that have work and families I guess.
“We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.”
― Oscar Wilde



HC in static recruiting means raid speed/time in this game.
So 8-10 hours a day for the first week is "hardcore" progression. There is usually an expectation to clear all the floors in that time span. Minimum ilevel savage raiding is actually more difficult than say a month or two or more in because you have to rely on crafted gear to clear the last fights
Plenty of people today likely can't clear E12S in full i510 gear. Like the fight is much different with 15% echo and i530 gear over full-crafted i510. So there are expectations of having a full understanding of one's job to do the most damage possible along with blind progression.




10 hours a day isn't that much, specifically if you don't have any other priorities at the time. I'll put that much into a game from time to time. Not as often as I used to though. I definitely wouldn't want to be committed to doing it with a static, that's just asking for burnout.
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