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    All Hair Colors for All

    My petition is very simple: please update the character creator to include all hair colors for all races. This can't be that big of a heavy lift for the devs, and it would mean so much to players who want that sweet ice-blue tint that Hyur has (see below).



    Thank you.
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    given how this game handles character data it probably IS a heavy lift.

    That said the way this game handles character data does need an overhaul. It won't be fast, it won't be easy, but it would go a long way to future proofing the character creator.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayuhra View Post
    given how this game handles character data it probably IS a heavy lift.
    Nah, we do actually know that hair color is stored directly as a standard RGB value. The current selections are an entirely intentional and artificial limitation. If anything, they've spent far more time and effort preventing people from breaking out of the allowed colors than it would have taken to give us numerical input or a slider and let use the look we want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Limecat View Post
    Nah, we do actually know that hair color is stored directly as a standard RGB value. The current selections are an entirely intentional and artificial limitation.
    Stored at what level?

    Everything I've seen of NPC data from browsing Garland Tools indicates that character hair colour is stored not as RGB values but as a grid reference to that palette. Change the layout and you'll presumably change existing characters' appearances as they blindly reference whatever colour is now in that slot.

    Unless it's just how the website relays the information.

    The grid reference would require less data, though, which might explain why they took that approach. Two numbers instead of three.
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    Last edited by Iscah; 07-22-2021 at 09:44 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayuhra View Post
    given how this game handles character data it probably IS a heavy lift.

    That said the way this game handles character data does need an overhaul. It won't be fast, it won't be easy, but it would go a long way to future proofing the character creator.
    There was a way people were able to hack their way to having non-standard hair colors. What I heard was that they changed the hex value during character creation and the game just went with it. I feel like it kinda throws the character data argument out the window though. If anything, SE is wasting character data if they're using six digit hex values for colors and only giving us the option to pick from a handful.
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    That's a good point. Also, an incentive to Square-Enix -- doing this may boost Fantasia sales, as even though hair is not Fantasia-locked, the races are, and some people may wish to play new races based on expanded hair color alone.
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    I wasn't even aware that different races had different hair colors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eien713 View Post
    I wasn't even aware that different races had different hair colors.
    Color palettes are same for the most part, that light blue color seems to be the only odd one, for whatever reason.
    Also Hrothgars have an independent color palette for fur (but share same palette for patterns/highlights with others).
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    Last edited by Halivel; 07-22-2021 at 06:08 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halivel View Post
    Color palettes are same for the most part, that light blue color seems to be the only odd one, for whatever reason.
    Also Hrothgars have an independent color palette for fur (but share same palette for patterns/highlights with others).
    Ah, I see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halivel View Post
    Color palettes are same for the most part, that light blue color seems to be the only odd one, for whatever reason.
    Also Hrothgars have an independent color palette for fur (but share same palette for patterns/highlights with others).
    It's not just that light blue, but the dark blue too. If your race has the light blue, that means their dark blue is more greyish. An Elezen can't get my exact color of blue for their hair.
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