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    Player Wavaryen's Avatar
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    Teladi Bishop
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    Balmung
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    Fisher Lv 90

    Each expansion I get hyped and also worried about more skills.

    For sam I really hated Shoha and the whole meditation system. When it first came out it was the worse, and yes they at last made it better. I still..don't really like it.

    New expansion time comes more skill bloat, and changes. It makes me nervous.
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    Ayuh'ra Bajhiri
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Same honestly, this game has a skill bloat problem. I doubt I could play without a controller.

    They really need to do a button prune before Endwalker.

    (Button prune, forums, not ability prune. There are some abilities that have no business being on separate buttons)
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  3. #3
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    Lilli Karani
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    Odin
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    Reaper Lv 90
    They have already cleaned up with skills with the release of every excpansion, so that it stays playable with the controller.

    Back in ARR you had on lvl 50 a similar amount of skill as you have today on lvl 80. Look how many you have today on lvl 50. And this will continue.
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    Crowzer Bonescythe
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    That why I main DNS. I wanted to invest on my SAM but too many skills.
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    Payadopa Astraya
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    Spriggan
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    Conjurer Lv 71
    All we need is a combo system like in PvP where (sensible) skills flow into the next but it's the same button. And I think I'll get my wish if the last MSQ in 5.55 is anything to go by (if I'm not mistaken).
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    Qynden Peltier
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by KarstenS View Post
    They have already cleaned up with skills with the release of every excpansion, so that it stays playable with the controller.

    Back in ARR you had on lvl 50 a similar amount of skill as you have today on lvl 80. Look how many you have today on lvl 50. And this will continue.
    Never had half of the weaponskills, spells or abilties they pruned on my hotbars anyway so it solved nothing. Some jobs are now screwed out of ever getting new abilities and are doomed to get generic upgrade traits to preexisting abilties/spells/weaponskills like Paladin where none of its kit goes unused and cannot be easily pruned except for maybe Cover and Shield Bash. I doubt anyone even has those two things on easily accessible keybinds on their hotbars in the first place with how niche Cover is compared to the other oath spender, Sheltron. And how Low Blow is superior because it's off the global cooldown, not sure if Shield Bash breaks combos but if it does it is even more useless (I don't even have that thing on my hotbar to find out), and mobs don't use interruptible actions enough to warrant an on demand stun.
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    Neoyoshi Kaligawa
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    Gilgamesh
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    Monk Lv 100
    Just remember we are getting a numbers squish in 6.0; so getting new skills is the least of our worries in terms of adapting to what will likely feel like 2013 ARR numbers.

    I personally will have fun, but I imagine a lot of people are going to find it jarring, so a couple of extra skills might ease the discomfort of smaller damage numbers and probably even smaller hitpoints.
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    ReynTime's Avatar
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    Princess Walk
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    Cactuar
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    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ayuhra View Post
    Same honestly, this game has a skill bloat problem. I doubt I could play without a controller.

    They really need to do a button prune before Endwalker.

    (Button prune, forums, not ability prune. There are some abilities that have no business being on separate buttons)
    I'm in favor of the button prune like consolidating ABC combos, but most players seem to consider having more different buttons to press "deep".
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  9. #9
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    Johnny Logenius
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    Odin
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    Dark Knight Lv 81
    as a tank main i feel the opposite. tanks dont have shit while dps are the only interesting jobs to play, which sucks because the DRK aesthetic appeals the most to me
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  10. #10
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    Character
    Arya Diavolos
    World
    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 98
    Y'all should be more worried about how many skills they're going to take away at lower levels only to add them back at high level with a different coat of paint lmao.
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