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  1. #21
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    Alchalant Matijow
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    The patch was supposed to unlock Tower at Paradigms Breach the same way Copied Factory and Puppets Bunker had been previously in 5.5 - where Yoshi had said in 5.5 live letter that the Copied Factory and Bunker rare minions would be much more easily obtainable.

    After he said this in live letter - upon the 5.5 patch - Copied Factory and Puppets Bunker were given 3 final coffers - one for each party in the raid. All 3 of these coffers for each party now (as of 5.5) contain both the normal and rare minions, and all orchestrion rolls in the first 2 alliance raids. All possible loot now always appears in the final coffers of Copied Factory and Puppets Bunker.

    This ticket is to raise attention because Tower at Paradigms Breach was similarly unlocked on 5.58 but the loot is not behaving in the same way as the adjustments on the other raids. They made the 3 party coffers but overlooked adjusting the loot table of each.

    I hope this makes this clear. Players that farm and collect these items noticed this immediately. They were anticipating Tower being unlocked similar to the other 2 alliance raids - and the patch notes said the raid would be unlocked the same way the last 2 were - and they did add the 3 separate coffers but overlooked adjusting the loot tables.
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  2. #22
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    RokkuEkkusu's Avatar
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    Mikeru Takeuchi
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    I encountered this myself. The 9S minion did not appear in some of my runs from "The Tower at Paradigm's Breach."

    Quote Originally Posted by KDSilver View Post
    9S was not a 100% drop at first.
    Now, it's still not guanranteed, but instead of fightning your roll with 23 others people, it'll only be with your own alliance.
    That's what it actually means.
    Neither were the Pod 316 from Copied Factory nor the 2B Automaton were guaranteed drops when they came out. However, when the patch notes to make the minion and orchestrion drops per party for the previous Yorha alliance raids, both Pod 316 and the 2B Automaton were always seen in their respective loot lists.

    This time, the 9S Automaton minion did not follow this rule for the patch 5.5 alliance raid.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alchalant View Post
    The patch was supposed to unlock Tower at Paradigms Breach the same way Copied Factory and Puppets Bunker had been previously in 5.5 - where Yoshi had said in 5.5 live letter that the Copied Factory and Bunker rare minions would be much more easily obtainable.

    After he said this in live letter - upon the 5.5 patch - Copied Factory and Puppets Bunker were given 3 final coffers - one for each party in the raid. All 3 of these coffers for each party now (as of 5.5) contain both the normal and rare minions, and all orchestrion rolls in the first 2 alliance raids. All possible loot now always appears in the final coffers of Copied Factory and Puppets Bunker.

    This ticket is to raise attention because Tower at Paradigms Breach was similarly unlocked on 5.58 but the loot is not behaving in the same way as the adjustments on the other raids. They made the 3 party coffers but overlooked adjusting the loot table of each.

    I hope this makes this clear. Players that farm and collect these items noticed this immediately. They were anticipating Tower being unlocked similar to the other 2 alliance raids - and the patch notes said the raid would be unlocked the same way the last 2 were - and they did add the 3 separate coffers but overlooked adjusting the loot tables.
    This is the best answer in this thread so far.
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    Mikeru Takeuchi: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/14812205/
    Ekkusu Volnutt: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/8909941/
    Rokku Sigma: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/5714962/

    "Break a warrior's body, and he will thirst for vengeance. Break his spirit, and he will clamor for peace. Judge my methods distasteful if you will - but know that I seek to end this conflict, not prolong it." - Yadovv Gah, Final Fantasy XIV A Realm Reborn

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    Celi Lucis
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    I hope this gets fixed soon
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  4. #24
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    I keep checking to see if there's any update on this (even to know if it's by design or if it was an oversight).

    Going by the tokens/pieces I've upgraded I can tell I've ran it about 40 times so far and I've never even seen the 9S minion drop. I know it sounds melodramatic, but It's soul crushing to spend ~45 minutes in the raid for it to not even appear at the end (let alone actually have to win it...)

    I know it's RNG at its best, but if it was something like an extreme primal we'd at least get a token that we could later trade in for the mount. Right now you could potentially run this a thousand times and never even see it drop and it just feels like a huge waste of time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by worldofneil View Post
    I keep checking to see if there's any update on this (even to know if it's by design or if it was an oversight).

    Going by the tokens/pieces I've upgraded I can tell I've ran it about 40 times so far and I've never even seen the 9S minion drop. I know it sounds melodramatic, but It's soul crushing to spend ~45 minutes in the raid for it to not even appear at the end (let alone actually have to win it...)

    I know it's RNG at its best, but if it was something like an extreme primal we'd at least get a token that we could later trade in for the mount. Right now you could potentially run this a thousand times and never even see it drop and it just feels like a huge waste of time.

    Yeah.. I'm a minion collector, but I can't stand that alliance raid.. The Red Girl boss causes me so much anxiety and distress with the effects that mess with my eyes and the jump scare which gets a very strong reaction for me... I'm waiting to see if they will fix this bug before I farm it, the less times I have to run that raid the better!
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    Alchalant Matijow
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    I’ll make this comment now since someone else just did another…

    Every time this bug report gets commented on - it brings it to the top of the bug report list. They have already passed by the original date of this thread and moved everything else from 7/20 to another category.

    I know this issue has gotten a lot of attention and is by far the highest viewed bug report - but if it keeps getting commented on and put back to the top of the list I’m afraid they are never going to see it to address it.

    I recommend submitting an in game bug report to raise more attention to this issue and waiting for them to move this bug report to another category.

    I especially recommend submitting an in game bug report because the original poster did not use the template (although I did post a comment with complete template) - so this may get tossed into insufficient information category based on original post.
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  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alchalant View Post
    I’ll make this comment now since someone else just did another…

    Every time this bug report gets commented on - it brings it to the top of the bug report list. They have already passed by the original date of this thread and moved everything else from 7/20 to another category.

    I know this issue has gotten a lot of attention and is by far the highest viewed bug report - but if it keeps getting commented on and put back to the top of the list I’m afraid they are never going to see it to address it.

    I recommend submitting an in game bug report to raise more attention to this issue and waiting for them to move this bug report to another category.

    I especially recommend submitting an in game bug report because the original poster did not use the template (although I did post a comment with complete template) - so this may get tossed into insufficient information category based on original post.
    I did just that, and I'll do a separate main post here too because I feel that this issue is one that should not be ignored.
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    Mikeru Takeuchi: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/14812205/
    Ekkusu Volnutt: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/8909941/
    Rokku Sigma: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/5714962/

    "Break a warrior's body, and he will thirst for vengeance. Break his spirit, and he will clamor for peace. Judge my methods distasteful if you will - but know that I seek to end this conflict, not prolong it." - Yadovv Gah, Final Fantasy XIV A Realm Reborn

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