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    The number of new players are increasing and so many questions being asked in my server's novice network. It is getting annoying trying to help each person but having to change our answer if we find out they are free trial players or not. We also sometimes would like to help these new players by giving them free gear and items like ARR relic crafted items, but we end up not able to do so because we find out they are on free trial. Sometimes We do ask them if they are free trial or not at first, but it is getting repetitive that having an icon that belongs to on free trial players only would make helping new players way faster and better.
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    Last edited by Shlinkx; 07-18-2021 at 05:18 PM.

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    while I dont disagree it would be an aid to others in some situations, it could also be used against them. so I dont really see it happening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    while I dont disagree it would be an aid to others in some situations, it could also be used against them. so I dont really see it happening.
    Thank you for your input, but I don't see what how can it be used to go against them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shlinkx View Post
    Thank you for your input, but I don't see what how can it be used to go against them?
    not sure you have hung around with people much, not meant as an insult but people, especially those protected by being anonymous online, can also be rather elitist "oh, you dont have money invested? why would I andswer your question freebie... get a job and put out some cash for answers or use google"

    I can see that being a thing, especially if there are a lot of free accounts with their new little flags. people WILL discriminate, its human nature. its not right, but it will happen to some extent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    "oh, you dont have money invested? why would I andswer your question freebie... get a job and put out some cash for answers or use google"
    That's already the attitude in NN with mentors. Just substitute "Oh you don't have money invested?" for "Oh, you're new to the game, let me troll and waste your time."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamsoap View Post
    That's already the attitude in NN with mentors. Just substitute "Oh you don't have money invested?" for "Oh, you're new to the game, let me troll and waste your time."
    I don't see this at all and I've spent a lot of time in novice networks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Katie_Kitty View Post
    Is "new players asking for help" even a thing in this game? I've been a mentor for some years now and might have been approached for advice on something like once.
    Yes, mentors who spend time in the Novice Network see new players questions all of the time and answer them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shlinkx View Post
    Thank you for your input, but I don't see what how can it be used to go against them?
    There are always those who will harass or discriminate for whatever reason.

    "Hey, free trial leech too cheap to pay for the game, I don't want you in my group"

    We don't need a special free trial icon to encourage that sort of thing.

    Most answers are going to be relevant whether someone is free trial or not. It's mainly use of chats and MB along with ability to join a FC that would be different. The free trial player is always free to clarify that they are free trial if the normal answer isn't working for them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    I don't see this at all and I've spent a lot of time in novice networks.

    Yes, mentors who spend time in the Novice Network see new players questions all of the time and answer them.
    Can vary by the world you played on. I was in the NN with an alt on a data center other than Crystal and that NN got plenty toxic at times.

    But it's not really NN that would be the problem. It's the general player base. I don't think SE would be able to flag players differently just within NN chat.
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    It's a fairly good assumption to make that anyone still in ARR hanging around in cities is a free trial player. I try to make my answers fairly general, but lean to the assumption they have bought the game, so that if they tell me "I can't do that" then it subtly motivates them to buy it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    It's a fairly good assumption to make that anyone still in ARR hanging around in cities is a free trial player. I try to make my answers fairly general, but lean to the assumption they have bought the game, so that if they tell me "I can't do that" then it subtly motivates them to buy it.
    Thank you for your post. I understand where you are coming from, but you can't tell where the person is from the NN chat, you have to search their name. Why should we make assumptions and give general answers when we can be certain from the icon and give the best answer we can.
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