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  1. #11
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    Iscah's Avatar
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evergrey View Post
    Does this boil down to the mentallity that an MMO is a race to the end and if you're jsut a day or two behind you're shit out of luck and all the fun of the experience is wasted?
    To be fair, there's a "race to the end (while thoroughly enjoying the story) so you can join the discussion and before you unwillingly get spoiled" element to it.

    Still, it's only a complication if you specifically want to play as sage or reaper, and while releasing them early would make sense to a degree, it also may be a deliberate tactic to stagger the crowds by making some portion of players do something other than go straight to the MSQ.
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  2. #12
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    Iyami Galvayra
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    Make it a Digital Collector's Edition bonus so we can lord over the poor plebs for a week.
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  3. #13
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    Meluwen Nobu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    To be fair, there's a "race to the end (while thoroughly enjoying the story) so you can join the discussion and before you unwillingly get spoiled" element to it.
    Sounds more like a entitlement. No one force you to look at social media and forums if you worried about being spoiled.

    If you really want to "win the race" then do the msq on a pre existing Lv80 job and change to RPR and SAG or whatever they going to be shortened as.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    Make it a Digital Collector's Edition bonus so we can lord over the poor plebs for a week.
    We already do in form of early access.
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  4. #14
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    Etherea Stormaire
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    Zalera
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    just because other games do it, such as lets say WoW, doesnt make it a better system.

    in fact, seeing where WoW is now, I would say it hasnt helped them a lot. just means a period of time before official launch where you can be upset and complain about the changes on the forum... unlike WoW, in here, you wont be "behind" missing that level up period, just enjoy the game as always.
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  5. #15
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    Riviera Koji
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sotaris View Post
    What a first world problem.
    A problem nonetheless

    Anyway, over the years FFXIV team had brought numerous QoL changes one would deem "first world problems"
    So I see no reason to ignore this one as well
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  6. #16
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    Etherea Stormaire
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Endariel View Post
    This approach will allow people to tinker around with new jobs in preparation, and most importantly to dive into the new expansion with the new jobs.
    Thus avoiding the situation where the player is forced to grind for 2-3 days straight for that 10 levels.
    also... might I point out... no one is "forced" to grind. thats personal choice. unlike WoW for example, where that grinding typically also serves to power up their latest flavour of expansion weapon, that is not a thing here. missing a day there can be detrimental... thats not the case here thus far, which is a welcome change personally. if you feel the urge to run to cap, thats your choice, and something you personally set to hang over your head. not everyone feels that way. just saying...
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  7. #17
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sotaris View Post
    Sounds more like a entitlement. No one force you to look at social media and forums if you worried about being spoiled.

    If you really want to "win the race" then do the msq on a pre existing Lv80 job and change to RPR and SAG or whatever they going to be shortened as.
    I didn't say I supported or wanted the early access, just pointing out that there are reasons for people to want to do the MSQ as soon as they can (which is not quite the same thing as as quickly as they can) that aren't just "gotta go fast so I can be first in a race that wins me nothing".
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  8. #18
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    Pure Mallace
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    Siren
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    Paladin Lv 100
    This isn't WoW. The new jobs are built into the actual expansion. Releasing the jobs without the expansion would remove the story elements to have it make sense. We do not even have a clue how you get Repear and Sage is going to be in the new zone we think.
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  9. #19
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    Dyvid Pandemonium
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    Adamantoise
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    Quote Originally Posted by Endariel View Post
    SNIP.
    I agree with concept but not in principle. I wouldn't mind to see job changes say one or two month before launch. I would really like to see world event prior to launch of 6.0. For example: We need FATE that mirror what we saw in the trailer.
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  10. #20
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    Rexipher Evergrey
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    Odin
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Puremallace View Post
    This isn't WoW. The new jobs are built into the actual expansion. Releasing the jobs without the expansion would remove the story elements to have it make sense. We do not even have a clue how you get Repear and Sage is going to be in the new zone we think.
    Reaper will be unlockable in Ul'dah.
    Can't remember if I've heard about Sage though.
    Edit: Google search said Limsa Lominsa.
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