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    Iiiiiiiiiiit's Meeeee
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    Personal heals: all DDs except [...] SMN have at least one self heal..
    Ph... physick?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItMe View Post
    Ph... physick?
    A 300 HP heal when bosses autoattack for 30,000 isn't worth mention.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    A 300 HP heal when bosses autoattack for 30,000 isn't worth mention.
    Perhaps, but they literally do have a heal.
    And I, personally, find it invaluable at low levels so it does have its uses, even if it's not as useful as any other heal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItMe View Post
    Perhaps, but they literally do have a heal.
    There is no situation after Lv45 (when they switch to INT-only gear) where casting it will change the number of times the enemy has to hit someone to kill them, so no, they don't have a heal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    There is no situation after Lv45 (when they switch to INT-only gear) where casting it will change the number of times the enemy has to hit someone to kill them, so no, they don't have a heal.
    Now now, there is a situation where it will add + 1. Once in a blue moon, maybe.

    Honestly I really don't understand why Summoner has Physick, except to give them a wombo combo in Bozja due to qualifying for a certain deep essence.
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    Arlo Nine-tails
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taranok View Post
    Now now, there is a situation where it will add + 1. Once in a blue moon, maybe.

    Honestly I really don't understand why Summoner has Physick, except to give them a wombo combo in Bozja due to qualifying for a certain deep essence.
    I feel that Physick scaling with MND instead of INT is a relic from the pre-SMN levels and more a code-related issue. It can't possibly be an overlook.

    I wonder if the only way to "fix" it would be adding a pre-SCH healer class (Academician anyone?) but at the same time, I dunno if they would want to invest resources into a lesser issue.
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    Kawaiian Punch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raikai View Post
    I feel that Physick scaling with MND instead of INT is a relic from the pre-SMN levels and more a code-related issue. It can't possibly be an overlook.

    I wonder if the only way to "fix" it would be adding a pre-SCH healer class (Academician anyone?) but at the same time, I dunno if they would want to invest resources into a lesser issue.
    It's not a code-related issue, it's a flavor thing. Arcanists have the spell, so Summoners continue to have it. But Summoners aren't good at it. If they were, they'd have to take a hit somewhere else like how RDM does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raikai View Post
    I wonder if the only way to "fix" it would be adding a pre-SCH healer class (Academician anyone?)
    This is unnecessary. Scholar is already effectively a classless job in its mechanical implementation (just look at their Actions window). It just needs a final separation from Arcanist. Require ACN30 to unlock it, have new scholars start at SCH30, level SCH separately from ACN/SMN, and grandfather everyone in with their initial SCH level matching their ACN level.

    This of course would do nothing to address SMN's Physick being useless once they move to INT-specific gear; but it's nonetheless a change that would be very easy for the devs to make without unnecessarily introducing a new class.
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    Dal S'ta
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taranok View Post
    Now now, there is a situation where it will add + 1. Once in a blue moon, maybe.

    Honestly I really don't understand why Summoner has Physick, except to give them a wombo combo in Bozja due to qualifying for a certain deep essence.
    I dunno. The last run of Copperbell Mines I ran as a level 50 SMN required me to (a) rez the tank (b) heal myself and the surviving DPS (c) heal the tank and (d) DPS down the boss. In that order. Fun times.
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