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  1. #1
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    ElysiumDragon's Avatar
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    Mimilla Milla
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    Archer Lv 92
    The thing is, it's very easy to spot a 'Shell FC' and take appropriate action, once you know exactly what you're looking for. Someone needs to show the devs what Shell FC's look like, and how to completely undermine them.
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    Hua Tuo
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    Zurvan
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Ward 2 in Goblet on Materia is an absolute travesty and massive sized middle finger to the entire playerbase. And, as usual, SE does not and will not care at all. I wish some of their staff actually played this game..
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    Yureka Unkara
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    Conjurer Lv 64
    i opend a Shell FC myself for me and my wife, simple because at it is now, an FC can get a house easier
    so we can have access to a garden and the workshop, regardless if it's a large house or a small one
    i'm a crafter an collecter, and i like it to gather all mats myself so i can craft all mounts and minions for me and my wife
    we dont like it to buy everything on the marketboard, there is more of a experiences of success if you get everything yourself, even if it takes longer

    Quote Originally Posted by ElysiumDragon View Post
    The thing is, it's very easy to spot a 'Shell FC' and take appropriate action, once you know exactly what you're looking for. Someone needs to show the devs what Shell FC's look like, and how to completely undermine them.
    Shell FCs (Small FC) were never the problem, only people and RMT organizations that abuse the FC System to buy whole wards

    Quote Originally Posted by HuaTuo View Post
    Ward 2 in Goblet on Materia is an absolute travesty and massive sized middle finger to the entire playerbase. And, as usual, SE does not and will not care at all. I wish some of their staff actually played this game..
    SE Forum: Ok so looks like people are still taking advantage and getting multiple houses.
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    ElysiumDragon's Avatar
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    Mimilla Milla
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    I'm looking at some data now, and I think my server has a serious issue with Shell FC's.
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    I have a very small Rank 30 FC in a small house. It started with 4 and there are only 2 of us active atm because one stopped playing for a while and left the FC to me. I never intended to have a large FC, it is not my thing and am real picky about whom I fraternize within game. We do enjoy the FC perks and constantly run my subs for goodies. I keep it nicely decorated and enjoy sharing it with a select few like-minded people that I can trust and not be constantly pestered as I was with a larger crowd. I am here to play the game for me not cater constantly to the whims and demands of others. I intend to keep the small fc and small house. I do not need another FC. I have a medium house and an apt. So, this is how I roll, don't like it???, too bad for you cuz I am quite pleased
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    Last edited by Besame; 04-21-2022 at 09:59 AM.

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    ElysiumDragon's Avatar
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    Mimilla Milla
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    Archer Lv 92
    There's a substantial difference between a smaller, less busy FC, and a blatantly obvious Shell FC. 3 major tells being a low FC Rank, characters at starting level or just above Level 50, and fewer than 5 FC members (usually 1, 2, or 3 members).
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    Lachesia's Avatar
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    Lachesis Takuhizu
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    Siren
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    Sage Lv 100
    Of which shell FC's lack the major criteria needed to get FC housing. Including Rank. Time. And numbers. "Shell" FC's don't benefit from much since they often don't meet the requirements to get the housing.
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    Julianna Arrisit
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    Jenova
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Again I'm all for the 4 member minimum, but for a small plot/FC. I think the bigger the plot the higher the (active) member requirement for FC housing should be. All the graphs, charts and even the Lodestone do not take into consideration that the majority of members in any one given FC is inactive. This needs to change as well and only should active accounts be counted on an FC's roster. Accounts showing an absence of six months or more should not be taken into consideration as belonging to any one FC, when all it is, is a lie

    SE gives us tools to maintain an FC and recruit, such as The Community Finder, Party Finder, communication channels and there is Discord. Of course all the shell FC's aren't going to bother with recruiting because there so little requirements that needs to be met. They just want a home with the amenities and privileges an FC has, which should only be exclusive to actual FC's. I feel these fake FC's should loose the privilege to hold their current FC housing if such requirement are not met within an allotted period and give meaning and purpose back to running an FC. Today FC's actual purpose becomes less and less in FFXIV, especially when it comes to housing. Many have found a way to use this title to their advantage base on so little required and all we can do is sit back and watch.
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    Lachesis Takuhizu
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    Siren
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    Sage Lv 100
    Regardless of how many members try to buy plots. Yes it causes the ratio to become more difficult for people to get into a housing plot of their choice, but that's the whole point of the lottery isn't it? Giving everyone a fair chance at at least one location? They should have limited it to 1 FC plot being purchased and multiple members could bid into that plot for a better chance, rather than let people attempt for multiple plots at the same time.
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    Mimilla Milla
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    Archer Lv 92
    Shell FC's (mostly used for house trading back in the day) are the scourge of the Spriggan server. Many wards have Large homes owned by dead FC's with a single low-level member left. If there's going to be talk of the issue of shell FC's, then I would like to discuss the possibility of evicting such tenants on the grounds of universal best interest, and letting those homes reenter the market and be won by established players.
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