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    Nethereal's Avatar
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    Deviously Enchanted
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 100
    First we remove msq.
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    Just because other players play the game. Does not mean you got to be mindful, or care
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    The problem ISN'T healers rotation is busted or boring...

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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Nethereal View Post
    First we remove msq.
    MSQ has a purpose. Getting sprouts through the story.

    Extremes don't. They were supposed to be optional content.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eien713 View Post
    I'd personally vote for option 1--remove those trials altogether. It's not a mentor's job to write walls of text to explain what a video would do a better job at, and it's certainly not a mentor's job to carry people who don't wanna make an effort.
    Especially when some of those trials have multiple phases that have complex mechanics that can't be easily typed out. And with the sheer amount of extremes having macros for all of them isn't realistic.

    My reason for removing them? Some of that content is over 5 years old now. No one should realistically be expected to teach that.
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    Last edited by Deceptus; 07-14-2021 at 11:35 AM.
    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    Baxcel Farshot
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    Lamia
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    MSQ has a purpose. Getting sprouts through the story.
    I believe they ment remove MSQ(Castrum and Prea) from the mentor roulette not the MSQ roulette itself
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    Mikeru Takeuchi
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    Excalibur
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nethereal View Post
    First we remove msq.
    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaticDodo View Post
    They really should rework those dungeons into solo duties or trusts. Pretty sure you could just have a bunch of random NPCs in misc grand company armor to fill in party members.

    I don't know the logistics around this, but yes. Down with MSQ Roulette!
    Ironically enough, getting EX primals with randoms from Mentor Roulette is the very reason why I started to appreciate doing Main Scenario Roulette more, despite both Castrum and Praetorium having those unskippable cutscenes. Heck, I would prefer getting those two said long dungeons in Mentor Roulette than getting ANY EX Primal. At the end of the day, you either clear it or you don't. People may not always take your advice when you give it to them in higher-end content. It may get to the point where people might not even reach or get past the add phases in Extreme trials via Duty Finder.
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    "Break a warrior's body, and he will thirst for vengeance. Break his spirit, and he will clamor for peace. Judge my methods distasteful if you will - but know that I seek to end this conflict, not prolong it." - Yadovv Gah, Final Fantasy XIV A Realm Reborn