6.0 most reworked job or jobs?

[SweetPete]

So in all the excitement for Endwalker. Which job or jobs do you think will get the biggest reworks and why? Or do you think none of them will?

For me, I think bard and summoner will get the biggest reworks since summoner is very clunky with the pets and is all over the place. Bard just has no flow of direction they want to go in. Either it’s a ranger or bard.

Let’s speculate!

[Anhra]

They better rework at the very least every Healer and Tank Job from scratch.

[Kabooa]

They better rework at the very least every Healer and Tank Job from scratch.

Paladin, Gunbreaker, Warrior, and White Mage do not need reworks.

Monk, Bard, Warrior, Dark Knight, and Scholar are the most in need of attention.

Red Mage, Summoner, and Machinist need varying degrees of middling work. Hard to give these all their own category, just a general "They need work but not as much as the five above".

Black Mage, Dragoon, Paladin, Gunbreaker, arguably Ninja + Samurai + White mage, are in excellent condition moving into the expansion.

[Rongway]

Red Mage, Summoner, and Machinist need varying degrees of middling work. Hard to give these all their own category, just a general "They need work but not as much as the five above".

RDMs are, broadly speaking, in a very good place. Our one real problem is specific to certain fights with certain party compositions: when grouped with two melee DDs, the timing of mechanics in specific fights requires us to delay our melee combo two to four GCDs later than is optimal, to accommodate the two melee DDs handling mechanics that are meant for melee DDs. These specific cases of inconvenient fight scripting are not worth a rework.

[Jirah]

Paladin, Gunbreaker, Warrior, and White Mage do not need reworks.

Monk, Bard, Warrior, Dark Knight, and Scholar are the most in need of attention.

Red Mage, Summoner, and Machinist need varying degrees of middling work. Hard to give these all their own category, just a general "They need work but not as much as the five above".

Black Mage, Dragoon, Paladin, Gunbreaker, arguably Ninja + Samurai + White mage, are in excellent condition moving into the expansion.

I agree to most of this but lets step aside and stop over hating on BRD as it plays mostly the same as SB and is partly the reason why im maining it while MCH is in a coma. It needs impactful support and apex ST variant nothing else...and maybe like a CD aoe version of Iron jaws but not bane that would trivialize aoes. Off topic off topic the forums have a reputation to follow the loudest leader and BRD has been getting too much disdain

[ssunny2008]

Paladin, Gunbreaker, Warrior, and White Mage do not need reworks.

Monk, Bard, Warrior, Dark Knight, and Scholar are the most in need of attention.

Red Mage, Summoner, and Machinist need varying degrees of middling work. Hard to give these all their own category, just a general "They need work but not as much as the five above".

Black Mage, Dragoon, Paladin, Gunbreaker, arguably Ninja + Samurai + White mage, are in excellent condition moving into the expansion.

Tanks are the worst classes since ShB. Nothing is more boring than being that imba-tank, who can give af about everything even without defs. Not to mention that all of them plays like 99% similar to each other. If you´ve played one, you can play them all. There is no mystery behind it, keep your damage buff up and spam your burst rotation on cooldown. And ähhh... stance?! Says enough i guess. OT´s are not even needed for 99% of all content. Invul OP!

ALL TANKS need a rework and should go back to some unique roots without being non stop broken in pretty much every content.

Healers the same... all of them work the same, just with a tweak called "shield or cure". If you don´t heal, you spam that 1 gcd all day long. Those gimmicks like cards, a pet or some wings are not even worth to be talked about. Overall all healer have pretty much the same tools. You have played one? You can play all!

The class designs have become a joke and will probably get even worse with the healer tweaks. Having so many differently named classes, when the most play actually the same, is completely worthless. I don´t know how anyone can say, that they´re in a good spot tbh. (It´s not even like the content would force anything from classes or the player to justify all the dumb changes we got in the past in any way.)

[Liam_Harper]

White mage, are in excellent condition moving into the expansion.

What...? 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, spamming clip Mage is in "excellent condition"? You usually make intelligent posts and I agree on most of what you said, but I'm assuming you don't play healer at endgame. Healers in general need work but WHM and SCH are in dire need of attention.

[Kabooa]

What...? 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, spamming clip Mage is in "excellent condition"? You usually make intelligent posts and I agree on most of what you said, but I'm assuming you don't play healer at endgame. Healers in general need work but WHM and SCH are in dire need of attention.

White Mage is coherent, has easy areas to add new skills upon, and requires no further reworking. The problem isn't that its broken. The problem is that its dull.

Clipping does not matter.

The additions we can make to White Mage would be simple, wouldn't infringe upon it at all, and would require very little work outside number tuning.

Seraph Strike, a dot detonator, another Lily Skill (Damage oriented or not, primarily just to burn in the rare case of not needing gcd healing for 90 seconds with no jump phase though Seraph Strike fixes that).

Those simple additions to the Scholar do nothing to address its woes.

That is why the White Mage, compared to the Scholar, is in excellent condition for the next expansion, in my opinion.

[KDSilver]

Clipping does not matter.

It does.
That's made AST so clunky back in Stb.
If my GCD can't roll smoothly as every other class in this game, I think it deserve some work.

[Easayia]

As a Bard Main I would love to see more emphasis on songs and not always the bow. While I like how bard functions I just think you play your song and then its this passive thing so the job does not feel complete. it needs to be like 30/70 bard to bow right now it feels like primarily always bow which I can live with but then why have the music aspect at all. Its a job with an identity crisis in some ways it needs more music flare to make it feel like a bard.

Maybe EndWalker will do this we dont know yet. However We all know This Team looks at feedback so its a matter of waiting.