Rokien's new thread on Open World.

[Dzian]

I want loads of open world stuff. simply looking at practically every single zone being dead all the time. I could almost guarantee if i searched and found 50 people in southern thanalan i would find 49 them either at the iffy aether or in zaharak farming tapers.

so much of the map of the map is wasted. when you look at places like last hold or snake molt, how many people pass through those in any given day. the area around everlakes is huge but everyone there will be in the same 10 square yalms right outside av the rest of that zone is useless. get some open world stuff. bring eorzea to life

[Andrien]

people seem to forget the instance content they enjoyed so much in ffxi.

Nyzul Isle Investigation
Dynamas, Limbus, Einherjar - instance zones
Salvage
bcnm
znm - boss monsters that are force pops, IE: trade a special item to a ??? spot on the ground and the NM pops.


complaining for nothing.. you guys have to stop worrying all the time.

[Dzian]

znm - boss monsters that are force pops, IE: trade a special item to a ??? spot on the ground and the NM pops.


complaining for nothing.. you guys have to stop worrying all the time.

ZNM was open world. you didnt get pulled into an instance when you poped a znm. people would often run by you in the middle of an armed gears fight or something. sky was open world. land in kirins lair right inthe middle of a stonega. beseiged, campaign, garrison, many mission related fights and stories all open world, etc.

basically why have a great big world of eorzea if nothing ever goes on out there. or you never see anything happen cos everyones magically whisked away to an instance.

[Andrien]

ZNM was open world. you didnt get pulled into an instance when you poped a znm. people would often run by you in the middle of an armed gears fight or something. sky was open world. land in kirins lair right inthe middle of a stonega. beseiged, campaign, garrison, many mission related fights and stories all open world, etc.

basically why have a great big world of eorzea if nothing ever goes on out there. or you never see anything happen cos everyones magically whisked away to an instance.

I understand what you're saying, but those content is designed that way, and the most popular ones is the instance content.

My point is that anyone can compare what is popular in other mmos, and the ones in ffxi that ppl seem to forget. but, not even I know for sure whats going to happen until I'm playing 2.0. Yoshi haven't given us that flood of information yet, so to me I dont understand the point of all these doom and gloom threads..

I doubt the devs gonna change anything now since we're so close to 2.0 release. it'll just cause more delay and it'll most likely hurt the fanbase that is waiting for 2.0

[Alerith]

I think people are overestimating the "roaming" portion of the Roaming Primals system. I really don't think it means they will be roaming all over different zones, just that they will be in the open world.

I believe that Ifrit will "roam" areas of Zahar'ak, where his tribe is. You'd have to fight through Zahar'ak, and maybe try to claim Ifrit while surrounded by enemies, at which point your whole party would be "Drawn in" to the Bowl of Embers.

OR, the Bowl of Embers area will become available as an actual area, where Ifrit will be roaming around, and you'll have to claim him there, at which point you enter the actual instanced version of the fight.

I'm ok with this. Contrary to what Rokien says to lie to himself, lag WILL still exist in some form in 2.0. And because having too many characters on your screen lagging you down is more PC than network, it WILL be a problem if too many people come to watch the fight.

"You know you can turn off the number of characters displayed". Yea, because changing my settings during every fight should be a requirement to prevent other people from getting me killed.

Keep the claim open world, keep the fight instanced. I like the track you're on Yoshida.

[Dawiichan]

Well they did say that ifrit can spawn "anywhere". I doubt that they meant anywhere in a small area.

[Babydoll]

Well they did say that ifrit can spawn "anywhere". I doubt that they meant anywhere in a small area.

I was wondering about this too...they did indeed say "Anywhere, anytime" does that mean like in town too? Town is anywhere so...lol

[Eliseus]

I'm ok with this. Contrary to what Rokien says to lie to himself, lag WILL still exist in some form in 2.0. And because having too many characters on your screen lagging you down is more PC than network, it WILL be a problem if too many people come to watch the fight.

"You know you can turn off the number of characters displayed". Yea, because changing my settings during every fight should be a requirement to prevent other people from getting me killed.

You know you can turn down the number of characters displayed? If your computer can't handle it what else do you want to be said? lol! Get a better computer then? My computer will probably be able to display max models just fine for example. So no, it actually won't be a problem, just for some people.

[Hulan]

"Anywhere within a prescribed and reasonable set of areas not including towns and other non-combat areas" was just too wordy, so they went with "anywhere".

[NumenarMithrandir]

I think I can speak for every open world lover, we are losing hope, is there anything you can tell/give us? We need something to keep us going, all these instances are wearing on us(us being the open world lovers). I know the poll says "you guys picked instanced" well, that poll was obscured because of the battle content that was also included in it. So, this is me begging for some info about anything cool open world. Something new that isn't in the pdf, something that I can drool over and squeal like a little girl.

So yoshi, can you give us anything? I think a lot of our patients are wearing thin. Especially with this latest patch... reasons I don't think I have to mention.

Ps. Please don't use quest-chaining for our open world content. Quest-chaining is the worst ever.

Also, any new clever thread titles that you guys can give me would be awesome. I'm only using this one as a joke, because my friend Lyndis got banned from the forums for a day with this thread title(not the reason why she got banned).

You need to remember their focus is 2.0, not before hand.... so they are not interested in adding anything till then. 2.0 I'm sure you will see something. I'm a fan of open world too but most people need to realize the team is working around the clock to manage something that they didn't start out with. I'm sure 2.0 will please most crowds, and if not then sad to say but can't please everyone. The current team has worked wonders and 2.0 looks amazing, cant wait! What comes comes, and if it's not for everyone then there are plenty of other mmos to go back to or try hehe. Placing pressure and trying to get a rise out of the crowd can't make them work any faster. I say let them do their job and be patient enough to wait for the fast approaching 2.0 version of FFXIV. To say again content before 2.0 is just something they will put together fast in order to maintain patience amongst the game players and give them a little something to place their time in "A time sink" till they can release their prized work "2.0".