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    Quote Originally Posted by Jadedsins View Post
    So what is effort to use skills I don't enjoy using? Well nah. I will do the best in the way I enjoy. In content that is design around it. Now if this cutting edge content. Or super end game stuff. Than you take would be valid. Lucky for us a small part of community cares about this non issue. So lucky for us the community is understanding when it comes to easy content. So it is not so toxic after all.
    Which is an entirely selfish mentality, especially for a DPS whose literal only purpose is dealing damage. Nothing is designed with the intention of players not using it. Dungeons are made easier on the assumption inexperienced players may not understand all of their toolkit not purposefully ignore it because they dislike how a spell or action looks. Don't try to excuse your attitude as anything more than selfishness.
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    Player Jadedsins's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    Which is an entirely selfish mentality, especially for a DPS whose literal only purpose is dealing damage.
    Ah ok. So it is selfish to play how I want. In content that is balance and design for playing like that.


    Good to know! Well I will gladly be selfish because the game supports it, and the developers are ok with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jadedsins View Post
    Ah ok. So it is selfish to play how I want. In content that is balance and design for playing like that.


    Good to know! Well I will gladly be selfish because the game supports it, and the developers are ok with it.
    Yes? In what universe wouldn't it be selfish to deliberately ignore beneficial things simply because you dislike them? An equivalent would be you working on a group project and deciding not to do 25% of the assignment because you just didn't like that part.

    The game doesn't "support" ignoring your toolkit nor do the developers. It's simply the result of casual content scaled on the assumption inexperienced won't yet grasp everything. Blatantly stated, the assume players will eventually get more comfortable and start using their full kit. They aren't expecting players to purposefully ignore it because they dislike the animations are pink instead of red.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jadedsins View Post
    The developers understand that tons of players like me. So my advice? Get use to it when it comes to doing DF.
    Fortunately, I don't have to "deal with it" as I have a handy Vote Dismiss option I will readily use coming across any player deliberately leeching like this. Even more fortunate for both us is we'll never come across each other since we're on different DCs. Hallelujah
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    Last edited by ForteNightshade; 07-19-2021 at 01:17 PM.
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    Player Jadedsins's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    Yes? In what universe wouldn't it be selfish to deliberately ignore beneficial things simply because you dislike them? An equivalent would be you working in a group project and deciding not to do 25% of the assignment because you just didn't like that part.

    The game doesn't "support" ignoring your toolkit nor do the developers. It's simply the result of casual content scaled on the assumption inexperienced won't yet grasp everything. Blatantly stated, the assume players will eventually get more comfortable and start using their full kit. They aren't expecting players to purposefully ignore it because they dislike the animations are pink instead of red.
    In a world where the content gets done even if said player does it. When the game is balanced around not needing it?


    It is like saying, Hey this content is relaxing and you can enjoy it how you want with others. And we give out rewards for doing so.



    If it is such a problem, ask for better rewards. I mean I can turn it around and say, it is selfish for players to want to ruin my fun because it will save you a few mins in a run. If the content gets done, that is all that matters at the end. If you don't like that, well I wish you luck in getting the other members to agree and vote kick. I've only been kicked out one time, and that was because I had to afk and did not expect to be gone that long.


    People who think this is an issue, like my husband said. Df is a tool convenience and it should have some draw backs. That is the quality of group getting made.
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    Last edited by Jadedsins; 07-19-2021 at 01:17 PM.