Please implement something to teach players how to play

[Wavaryen]

Pretty much every time so far her reputation has caught fire -- albeit usually for her own inflammatory or disingenuous remarks -- you've only ever doused her... with accelerant. That hardly seems a noble favor and may be far worse than the kind of "loser" who gives level advice as to where a given comment makes no sense, is utterly narcissistic, etc., as appropriate so she can decide whether to backpaddle or adjust before you've added your momentum to the crash course.

Nearly the worst you can do is add fire, as you have, especially if with poorly thought-out or contradictory messages like condemning others for heirarchicalizing others just before gloating about your...

Oh boy. I'm not even going to comment on that one. Either way that thread was bad all around for myself and the community. I talked with gms to clear it up, and the person was dealt with. So all well that ends well. The person going back and using the past as a way to discredit me all because he does not agree, Looks bad on them more so than me to bring up a 5-6 year old thread. I explain my reasons, and I also fully support my wife play style. It is not anyone in the community place to tell her how to play in a pug settings.

[Seera1024]

Oh boy. I'm not even going to comment on that one. Either way that thread was bad all around for myself and the community. I talked with gms to clear it up, and the person was dealt with. So all well that ends well. The person going back and using the past as a way to discredit me all because he does not agree, Looks bad on them more so than me. I explain my reasons, and I also fully support my wife play style. It is not anyone in the community place to tell her how to play in a pug settings.

But everyone else having to compromise on their play style in order to accommodate your wife's play style in pug groups and she never has to compromise is unfair to other players.

Your wife should be the one to compromise sometimes.

I suggest she compromises in dungeons as a start. Where her preferred style of play has the most negative impact to the ability to complete the content.

Now, if you use the PF to find a group that's willing to carry her, then go for it. She doesn't have to compromise because the others agreed to make up for her play style's short comings.

[Wavaryen]

But everyone else having to compromise on their play style in order to accommodate your wife's play style in pug groups and she never has to compromise is unfair to other players.

Your wife should be the one to compromise sometimes.

I suggest she compromises in dungeons as a start. Where her preferred style of play has the most negative impact to the ability to complete the content.

Now, if you use the PF to find a group that's willing to carry her, then go for it. She doesn't have to compromise because the others agreed to make up for her play style's short comings.

That is fine in a pug setting. It is up to the players to understand that is the content they are getting into. It is not her place to change because the content still gets done with how she plays. It is design to be done base off bad players.

[SomeRandomHuman]

That is fine in a pug setting. It is up to the players to understand that is the content they are getting into. It is not her place to change because the content still gets done with how she plays. It is design to be done base off bad players.

Just as it's the rest of the group's place to not want someone like her in their group if they so desire.

[Wavaryen]

Just as it's the rest of the group's place to not want someone like her in their group if they so desire.

You have the tools if the group picks to do that. But most of the time the groups don't care as long as it gets done.


So what is the problem?

[SomeRandomHuman]

You have the tools if the group picks to do that. But most of the time the groups don't care as long as it gets done.


So what is the problem?

The fact you seem far too sure you're false pretense is accurate when it isn't. Just because the content can be cleared that way doesn't mean it was intended to. As you love to ignore this: you say anything past the 2 or 3 skills is all you need and the rest is for the "stuff that requires it." Well, when in order to get to this "stuff" you need to first complete these 4 man things in which you have access to the same number of skills or minus a few in the case of 70-79.

So by this simple analysis, the game is very clearly intended for you to use all the actions you have available to you. The fact you may be able to get away by only using 2-3 of them doesn't mean that it's intended you only use the said 2-3.

[Seera1024]

You have the tools if the group picks to do that. But most of the time the groups don't care as long as it gets done.


So what is the problem?

The problem is that she and you expect everyone else to change how they play to accommodate her, but get defensive when someone dares ask that she changes how she plays the game.

You ask others to be a team player to get your wife through content, but refuse to be a team player back by making it easier on them.

It would be different if your wife had a disability that made playing the game at her current level the best she can do.

But you've admitted that she chooses what skills to use based on what looks cool.

That's the problem.

You expect others to do what you refuse to do.

[Wavaryen]

The problem is that she and you expect everyone else to change how they play to accommodate her, but get defensive when someone dares ask that she changes how she plays the game.

You ask others to be a team player to get your wife through content, but refuse to be a team player back by making it easier on them.

It would be different if your wife had a disability that made playing the game at her current level the best she can do.

But you've admitted that she chooses what skills to use based on what looks cool.

That's the problem.

You expect others to do what you refuse to do.

No she does not? She does not care how you all play. Just like I don't. Also when I do pugs. I don't ask anything. We are just using each other to try and get content done. Not to be friends. Not to make sure others enjoy the game. She gets the content done playing how she wants.



If you got a group of players that played like her. The content would still get done. Maybe it would take much longer. But as long as it gets done that is all that matters to them. That is what DF is, and what it is design for.