Please implement something to teach players how to play

[Wavaryen]

no no, I'd rather not, seeing them trying their hardest to seem like the nice guys in the discussion but just digging themselves deeper with their entitlement is enough - and that show of sexism was a big big yikes, but I'm "sure" he's changed since then...




that's how they argue, they just skip over parts they don't have an answer to and try to move goalposts as soon as possible, as seen throughout this whole thread (and a similar one a while ago where it was a very similar topic and their posts were almost exactly the same, 60 year old granny that doesn't know what DoTs are included - though... have you two never tried to explain DoTs to her, shown her how they work?!)

others from that "camp" argue the same way, too, which is where those clone comments from miashino are coming from, I guess?
always with the exaggeration, unnecessary hyperbole posted like a fact etc..

what type of loser would I be if I did not defend my wife from being called every name in the book because the cult of players at the time did not want to see how bad the CS was and the community had issues?


You all making my point for me. I debunked everything you all said. Gave ideas on how to get what you want, and now you show something out of context many years ago, not showing the people in that thread personal attacks and breaking the rules of the forum getting away with it.


I shall use the line I used many years ago. Putting people in place.

[Rinhi]

what type of loser would I be if I did not defend my wife from being called every name in the book because the cult of players at the time did not want to see how bad the CS was and the community had issues?


You all making my point for me. I debunked everything you all said. Gave ideas on how to get what you want, and now you show something out of context many years ago, not showing the people in that thread personal attacks and breaking the rules of the forum getting away with it.


I shall use the line I used many years ago. Putting people in place.

still waiting for any points that people made to be debunked by you because that never happened, but I guess your narcissistic entitlement thinks you did
you can defend your wife without being a sexist pos, but I'm sure you're aware of that

Actually a good post.

can't believe he's agreeing with us :O

[Wavaryen]

still waiting for any points that people made to be debunked by you because that never happened, but I guess your narcissistic entitlement thinks you did
you can defend your wife without being a sexist pos, but I'm sure you're aware of that



can't believe he's agreeing with us :O

Nope, at the time i made my point clear. At how bad the rules was not being enforced, and even talked with a GM afterwards who told me they was sorry about the thread, and did not agree with how I handle it. But understood tempers was flaring because the people would not accept that my wife could not get help at the time.


Things have come a looong ways. Btw to answer your other question. DF is design to be easy and for players like her. So the content does not require her to do it. So why should she?


It takes a ton to irk me...but the community that day? Oh boy.

[Shurrikhan]

what type of loser would I be if I did not defend my wife from being called every name in the book because the cult of players at the time did not want to see how bad the CS was and the community had issues?

Pretty much every time so far her reputation has caught fire -- albeit usually for her own inflammatory or disingenuous remarks -- you've only ever doused her... with accelerant. That hardly seems a noble favor and may be far worse than the kind of "loser" who gives level advice as to where a given comment makes no sense, is utterly narcissistic, etc., as appropriate so she can decide whether to backpaddle or adjust before you've added your momentum to the crash course.

Nearly the worst you can do is add fire, as you have, especially if with poorly thought-out or contradictory messages like condemning others for heirarchicalizing others just before gloating about your...

Putting people in place.

[Wavaryen]

Pretty much every time so far her reputation has caught fire -- albeit usually for her own inflammatory or disingenuous remarks -- you've only ever doused her... with accelerant. That hardly seems a noble favor and may be far worse than the kind of "loser" who gives level advice as to where a given comment makes no sense, is utterly narcissistic, etc., as appropriate so she can decide whether to backpaddle or adjust before you've added your momentum to the crash course.

Nearly the worst you can do is add fire, as you have, especially if with poorly thought-out or contradictory messages like condemning others for heirarchicalizing others just before gloating about your...

Oh boy. I'm not even going to comment on that one. Either way that thread was bad all around for myself and the community. I talked with gms to clear it up, and the person was dealt with. So all well that ends well. The person going back and using the past as a way to discredit me all because he does not agree, Looks bad on them more so than me to bring up a 5-6 year old thread. I explain my reasons, and I also fully support my wife play style. It is not anyone in the community place to tell her how to play in a pug settings.

[Seera1024]

Oh boy. I'm not even going to comment on that one. Either way that thread was bad all around for myself and the community. I talked with gms to clear it up, and the person was dealt with. So all well that ends well. The person going back and using the past as a way to discredit me all because he does not agree, Looks bad on them more so than me. I explain my reasons, and I also fully support my wife play style. It is not anyone in the community place to tell her how to play in a pug settings.

But everyone else having to compromise on their play style in order to accommodate your wife's play style in pug groups and she never has to compromise is unfair to other players.

Your wife should be the one to compromise sometimes.

I suggest she compromises in dungeons as a start. Where her preferred style of play has the most negative impact to the ability to complete the content.

Now, if you use the PF to find a group that's willing to carry her, then go for it. She doesn't have to compromise because the others agreed to make up for her play style's short comings.

[Wavaryen]

But everyone else having to compromise on their play style in order to accommodate your wife's play style in pug groups and she never has to compromise is unfair to other players.

Your wife should be the one to compromise sometimes.

I suggest she compromises in dungeons as a start. Where her preferred style of play has the most negative impact to the ability to complete the content.

Now, if you use the PF to find a group that's willing to carry her, then go for it. She doesn't have to compromise because the others agreed to make up for her play style's short comings.

That is fine in a pug setting. It is up to the players to understand that is the content they are getting into. It is not her place to change because the content still gets done with how she plays. It is design to be done base off bad players.

[SomeRandomHuman]

That is fine in a pug setting. It is up to the players to understand that is the content they are getting into. It is not her place to change because the content still gets done with how she plays. It is design to be done base off bad players.

Just as it's the rest of the group's place to not want someone like her in their group if they so desire.

[Wavaryen]

Just as it's the rest of the group's place to not want someone like her in their group if they so desire.

You have the tools if the group picks to do that. But most of the time the groups don't care as long as it gets done.


So what is the problem?