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    Ralph2449's Avatar
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    Iris Nakiri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wavaryen View Post
    The ego behind the statement that people got to meet your standards in a pug
    It speaks to their feeling of entitlement, anyone with a functioning brain knows to never ever have high expectations of pugged groups in any game, the possibility of a slower run is always possible, but these people somehow have not only managed to have this ridiculous expectation that defies reality, they also feel ENTITLED to it lol.
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    The tryhard elitist is the person who is going to finish their 5 pieces on this created to be beaten """"challenge"""" and then complaint that the baby, slower or less dexterous person are a problem which not only is toxic but indirectly implies that doing this basic created to be beaten task faster is an """achievement""" of """great skill""" which helps to falsely boost the elitist's self worth as that is their true motive, if challenge was truly their desire they would relish in the chance to do more than the rest.
    The healthy person on the other hand will either let people finish their part or assist them for their self worth does not depend on solving basic puzzles created to be beaten, aka as a video game.

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    Tai Natuia
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    Paladin Lv 85
    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph2449 View Post
    It speaks to their feeling of entitlement, anyone with a functioning brain knows to never ever have high expectations of pugged groups in any game, the possibility of a slower run is always possible, but these people somehow have not only managed to have this ridiculous expectation that defies reality, they also feel ENTITLED to it lol.
    I expect people to be decent human beings.
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    Chymea Sum
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph2449 View Post
    It speaks to their feeling of entitlement, anyone with a functioning brain knows to never ever have high expectations of pugged groups in any game, the possibility of a slower run is always possible, but these people somehow have not only managed to have this ridiculous expectation that defies reality, they also feel ENTITLED to it lol.
    I expect players in pugged content to be team players.

    Not to get harassed for my mistakes by the toxic elitist.

    Not for my run to take twice as long as the average run because a member of the party decides they don't want to use all of their skills because they don't look cool.

    I don't expect perfection and if it's a post-50 dungeon and a handful of the pre-50 dungeons, I go in expecting there might be a wipe or two.

    Now, I don't mind a run taking an abnormally long time due to a player who is trying to get better actively learning and getting better. I'd even accept not completing the content in that case. Because the time was well spent teaching another player how to play their class and the game.

    But if we're constantly wiping and the party is asked to perform a little better and a response back is "Sorry, I only use these 2 skills because they look cool. I don't use my high DPS skills because they don't look cool." then I'm not fine with that and that player shouldn't be either. Because they're not being a team player. I'd be against any toxic elitist in the group jumping down their throats for it, because there's a better way to get a player to compromise than attacking them. Because attacking a player is likely going to get them to double down on whatever it is you're asking them to change. They'll be less likely to compromise.
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    Rinh Neftereh
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    Excalibur
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Seera1024 View Post
    I expect players in pugged content to be team players.

    Not to get harassed for my mistakes by the toxic elitist.

    Not for my run to take twice as long as the average run because a member of the party decides they don't want to use all of their skills because they don't look cool.

    I don't expect perfection and if it's a post-50 dungeon and a handful of the pre-50 dungeons, I go in expecting there might be a wipe or two.

    Now, I don't mind a run taking an abnormally long time due to a player who is trying to get better actively learning and getting better. I'd even accept not completing the content in that case. Because the time was well spent teaching another player how to play their class and the game.

    But if we're constantly wiping and the party is asked to perform a little better and a response back is "Sorry, I only use these 2 skills because they look cool. I don't use my high DPS skills because they don't look cool." then I'm not fine with that and that player shouldn't be either. Because they're not being a team player. I'd be against any toxic elitist in the group jumping down their throats for it, because there's a better way to get a player to compromise than attacking them. Because attacking a player is likely going to get them to double down on whatever it is you're asking them to change. They'll be less likely to compromise.
    and those toxic elitists are, like, how many? if we say 5% of the playerbase are the toxic casuals who don't use 90% of their kit for whatever reason, then those toxic elitists are around...? 1% 0.5%?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rinhi View Post
    and those toxic elitists are, like, how many? if we say 5% of the playerbase are the toxic casuals who don't use 90% of their kit for whatever reason, then those toxic elitists are around...? 1% 0.5%?
    How many of each there are in the game percentage wise is irrelevant to my point.

    Players should be team players when entering multiplayer content. No matter which side of the coin a player is on.

    That's my point.
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    Player Rinhi's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seera1024 View Post
    How many of each there are in the game percentage wise is irrelevant to my point.

    Players should be team players when entering multiplayer content. No matter which side of the coin a player is on.

    That's my point.
    I know and I'm fully in agreement with you
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