Quote Originally Posted by Eien713 View Post
Welcome to the game. I just wanted to say that I don't think this thread is about new players being bad at the game. I haven't read the whole thing, but it now mostly boils down to "I play however I please because normal content is braindead anyway" vs. "You need to play at a decent level and pull your weight." Honestly? I'm part of camp 2 but that's beside the point.
Quote Originally Posted by Rinhi View Post
yeah, exactly, which is why I can't stand those posts that basically declare that everyone from camp 2 is a toxic elitist and I can't stress it enough that it's not about sprouts, new players or people leveling another job!
Somehow by entering into this thread, even if you have not said anything about anything, people keep randomly picking people out and labeling them as toxic elitists. They don't even know how long someone has been playing for or what they even try to accomplish within the game. They also will tell you that you wish to speed run dungeons or some such nonsense grouping everyone into a little bubble so they do not have to think about multiple peoples experiences or even read what others have written. If I wished to speed run I would not have been kind of annoyed at the sprout tank denying the sprout healer of gear within Qarn today.

I have not played for long, but I have played enough to see a trend of people getting fiesty within content and freaking out on new players. Those people are the ones who do not push any of their buttons, if I did not have a friend that had a parser installed I would not have known that person was doing those things while they were yelling at the only healer alive to limit break. Everytime someone in a dungeon has been toxic they have literally not be pushing any of their buttons but whatever their 1 is set to. I think those people are the actual elitists/casuals that everyone is mistaking everyone else for, or are they the ones who are doing these things in the first place and are projecting. This whole thread is really giving me some insight within the psyche of those players.