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    Player Rinhi's Avatar
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    Rinh Neftereh
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    Excalibur
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Mostly_Raxus View Post
    kinda think yall are reaching now
    I'm so sorry i was condescending to a hypothetical ideal, i do hope you recover from the shock....
    as nethereal said, it wasn't aimed at you directly but more or less aimed at similar posts, those who insult and flame everyone that isn't them while they're also the first ones to be offended at another player's behalf

    Quote Originally Posted by Mostly_Raxus View Post
    anyone doing anything to antagonize should be called out, regardless of sides, but a new player not knowing mechanics is not that, a veteran player harassing a sprout because they don't want to be bothered is.

    so many people hold their head so high because they think themselves good at a game that is designed to be beaten.. they use that smug to look down on others instead of helping, granted they are usually the casuals pretending to be hardcore..
    the real hardcore know how to help each other learn and keep the game a friendly environment for the sake of morale and completion.
    OP - and others including me - are talking about players who are at max level, of players who should know how to play their class at an average, decent level
    not a single person is asking for savage/ultimate-tier performance from randoms and yet:
    that's exactly what many of the people seem to think "we" want! for legitimately zero reason, too, only because it's easier to defend these "poor casuals" from those "toxic elitists" if the so called elitists are constantly painted as the big bad that's ruining everyone else's fun with [made up reasons] because ??? who knows
    as you can read throughout the thread, most of those so-called "toxic elitists" are trying to help people and are met with negative responses because people do not like to have their bad playstyle/behaviour pointed out and will invent scenarios to make the person that tries to help look bad and said behaviour, if you experience it often enough, will also make the person trying to help less likely to help the next person that's struggling

    hell, the OP you've decided is a bad guy is talking about that, too
    Also, Im not going to bother trying to teach people things in game. Been there, done that. You get screamed at.

    TO clarify: I'm mainly concerned about level 70-80 characters having these issues.
    that's not: "considering the very first post comes down to "get gud" and "Im not helping the newbs" im going to graciously disagree with half your point."
    that's: "I'm tired of being insulted for trying to help someone who shouldn't need help"

    Quote Originally Posted by Mostly_Raxus View Post
    there is a reason we have to watch cut-scenes in main scenario roulette and this community knows what side is to blame. the self centered elite that have no time for new players getting the same chance they did to experience the content as new.
    the actual self centered elite is still skipping those cutscenes, y'know, that never stopped

    Quote Originally Posted by XabyTimberwolf View Post
    Let me give a new player perspective as I just started a few weeks ago. (my own, not speaking for anyone)

    Most of us new players will get better but if we are frustrated and feel unwelcome then we won't be around in the end which may be the goal of this thread in the end for all I know. Placing impediments on players to keep them out of content is an MMO killer. This game has a rep of players being kind to each other but this thread reads suspiciously like a git gud M+ Wow thread.
    this isn't about new players being treated badly, this thread is about players with a maxed out class playing like they never played it before, in "end game" content none the less
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    Last edited by Rinhi; 07-17-2021 at 04:48 AM.