Please implement something to teach players how to play

[Rinhi]

You should understand that the people frequenting the forums and the experiences they describe typically do not represent the attitude and experience of the average player. I levelled recently White Mage entirely through the Duty Finder and not once did I encounter those mythical beings in the OP, that couldn't figure left from right. Everyone was helpful and understanding when fails happened, people gave advice and guided groups successfully, gave sprout tanks the space to find their own speed etc. Vote kicks have gone out only to people that DC, and no one was stressing about completion times as long as the content was being done. The occasional wipe was never demoralizing and never did it lead to shouting matches throwing blame around.

You should not let the attitude of a fraction of a minority on the forums dissuade you from progressing your MSQ. If you're coming from WoW, you probably have expectations that the toxicity will be there 100% of the time from at least 1-2 players in the group, this is simply not the case here, and do not let this thread tell you otherwise.

absolutely no one is saying that the bad apples mentioned in this thread are the average player, as others, including me, have pointed out repeatedly that it's about the players who play bad on purpose but get coddled and defended by parts of the community of the community because "please be nice uwu it doesn't matter if the average 15 minute dungeon takes more than double/triple the time you did everything perfectly fine oVo" etc
I'd say most, if not all, of the "critics" in this thread try to be as helpful as they can be to sprouts and "bad" players whenever they can (I know I am, at least) but posts like yours or others that are similar imply, at least to me, that "we" don't do that and instead just shout abuse at someone performing subpar, which I don't understand

These 46 (so far) pages tell me that FFXIV has the same issues as other games when people with different ideas of "how the game should be played" end up in the same group. You get toxicity. And this is why I'm so uncomfortable doing group content. My personality type is that I don't handle confrontations well at all. If I don't group with others, I don't have to face that possibility, so when a game *requires* group content to continue the story line, I get all hesitant and have to pluck up the courage to dive into DF to get the dungeon done.

And that's why as a level 43 Dragoon I'm still stuck at Toto-Rak! I hasten to add that's no-one's fault except mine. What I'm hoping to do is demonstrate that sometimes it's not about the level of competence of the player, its about the comfort level and a person's own perception of their competence. Because there's no real way to see how well you're doing. And I don't have a clue how you could do that in-game without causing all sorts of other issues about expected performance from those other "elitist" players. Because those do exist...and I'm very much afraid I'm going to get one or two whenever I have to do group content.

I've rambled enough; I'll shut up now.

I can understand that you feel like that after reading this thread, but I can assure you that it's unlikely that you'll run into troubles doing or confrontations in DF. It's only really alliance raids where arguments seem to broke out and that's mostly due to kind of players that people have been talking about: players who basically AFK or trolls intent on ruining the fun of everyone
since I started playing last year, I've seen "elitist" toxicity maybe... twice? thrice? in DF dungeons? though I do guess it's because people are not willing to risk their account when they call out the aforementioned "playing badly on purpose" players, so those are usually silently kicked or the rest of the party tries to take their non-existent playing in account for the rest of the dungeon
those "elitist" players almost exclusively do high end content, i.e. extremes, savages and ultimates and are unlikely to do DF content and even if they do, they usually don't say a single word because they just want to be done with it
most of the toxicity you'll run into will be from non-elitists because the tank pulled too much/too little, a dps/healer pulled mobs for the tank or the healer can't keep up with healing due to too many enemies and the tank not using cooldowns or using the wrong skills - if they even heal or tank because something someone has said got their knickers in a twist and they refuse to do their job