Please implement something to teach players how to play

[kaynide]

I'd have tried but opened chests where people don't roll on the loot makes it kinda hard :P
plus, the dps' did enough damage so everything got done in a relative timely fashion, the 5 minutes extra are not really a big deal

just for the record, wyv is defending his wife who actively does not use half of her abilities because she doesn't like the look of them - and how that's perfectly fine because it's "just" DF and that people should expect players who actively refuse to play their class in it and how people who expect more are toxic, tryhard elitists who don't have friends

Ah, well I would encourage her to play better..but my wife is pretty similar to be honest. She plays the game more or less like a chat room to socialize with her friends. Fortunately she is aware of her D- skill level..and never uses DF. She plays exclusively within our circle of RL friends.

[Rinhi]

Ah, well I would encourage her to play better..but my wife is pretty similar to be honest. She plays the game more or less like a chat room to socialize with her friends. Fortunately she is aware of her D- skill level..and never uses DF. She plays exclusively within our circle of RL friends.

like, contrary to what it may seem I don't have a problem with players like this - and would even do content with them because I'd know what I'd getting into (forgive me for using these cold words, I really don't mean it in a bad way!)
hell, I don't mind waiting 10+ minutes if someone from DF has to go AFK as long as they communicate it

but when a player actively and knowingly isn't using their abilities, is smug and toxic about it and tries to take a moral high ground over the perceived "elitism" of others when people call them what they are, it weirds me out and says a lot about themselves when they continuously do it
also, calling others self-centered when they want to help people improve, like what the heck lmao

also, I find it odd how the husband stops posting and the wife starts posting with the exact same writing and post style :v)

[Jadedsins]

like, contrary to what it may seem I don't have a problem with players like this - and would even do content with them because I'd know what I'd getting into (forgive me for using these cold words, I really don't mean it in a bad way!)
hell, I don't mind waiting 10+ minutes if someone from DF has to go AFK as long as they communicate it

but when a player actively and knowingly isn't using their abilities, is smug and toxic about it and tries to take a moral high ground over the perceived "elitism" of others when people call them what they are, it weirds me out and says a lot about themselves when they continuously do it
also, calling others self-centered when they want to help people improve, like what the heck lmao

also, I find it odd how the husband stops posting and the wife starts posting with the exact same writing and post style :v)

I mean my husband was right. It is kinda self center to want someone to improve that does not want it. Ever gone to the pool, and always that one guy who wants to jump in the deep in. Always wants one of us to join him, even though we are just happy chilling ? Just go do your fun, and let us girls chat. Wanting players to play better if they are doing something that requires them to be better is one thing, wanting them to play better when it is not needed is another.

[SomeRandomHuman]

I mean my husband was right. It is kinda self center to want someone to improve that does not want it. Ever gone to the pool, and always that one guy who wants to jump in the deep in. Always wants one of us to join him, even though we are just happy chilling ? Just go do your fun, and let us girls chat. Wanting players to play better if they are doing something that requires them to be better is one thing, wanting them to play better when it is not needed is another.

Considering the game is intended for you to use all the skills and abilities you have access to in any piece of content your husband is even worse than your friend for trying to say otherwise.

[Jadedsins]

Considering the game is intended for you to use all the skills and abilities you have access to in any piece of content your husband is even worse than your friend for trying to say otherwise.

Hmmmmm...I don't know if it is worth debating this. As it would suggest that the DF content can't be done without all your skills. If that is the case, dang I'm better than I thought.

[SomeRandomHuman]

Hmmmmm...I don't know if it is worth debating this. As it would suggest that the DF content can't be done without all your skills. If that is the case, dang I'm better than I thought.

"can't" and "can" aren't the point. If the game wasn't intending you to make use of more than 2-3 skills and/or abilities we wouldn't even have more than those 2-3.

You can't do these "higher" end things like 8 and 24 man content without first clearing through all the required 4 man content.

You and your potentially imaginary husband just don't want to debate because you know you can't prove me otherwise.

[Jadedsins]

"can't" and "can" aren't the point. If the game wasn't intending you to make use of more than 2-3 skills and/or abilities we wouldn't even have more than those 2-3.

You can't do these "higher" end things like 8 and 24 man content without first clearing through all the required 4 man content.

You and your potentially imaginary husband just don't want to debate because you know you can't prove me otherwise.

Not really, nothing to debate you with. My husband already answer you, and you ignored his logic. You can just say you don't agree and move on...but you want to act like you have some upper hand is just silly. Also you need to calm down...imaginary husband? Listen, the only time I ever wish that was true is when he plays Escape From Tarkov. Just because we don't agree does not mean you got to call my husband imaginary. What is wrong with you?

[Rinhi]

I mean my husband was right. It is kinda self center to want someone to improve that does not want it. Ever gone to the pool, and always that one guy who wants to jump in the deep in. Always wants one of us to join him, even though we are just happy chilling ? Just go do your fun, and let us girls chat. Wanting players to play better if they are doing something that requires them to be better is one thing, wanting them to play better when it is not needed is another.

it is needed because most of the time a normal trial/raid can't be passed is because of selfish and entitled players like you holding everyone up and expecting to get carried through the content said content like you were in your whole playtime before

Hmmmmm...I don't know if it is worth debating this. As it would suggest that the DF content can't be done without all your skills. If that is the case, dang I'm better than I thought.

you know why you can do that DF content with you playing like you do? because other people are carrying your selfish butt

[Jadedsins]

it is needed because most of the time a normal trial/raid can't be passed is because of selfish and entitled players like you holding everyone up and expecting to get carried through the content said content like you were in your whole playtime before

and I thank you for the carry. and if it fails. Well guess we make a new group and try again. Not a big deal. Better luck next time. Win some lose some. Failing is ok in games.

[ReynTime]

and I thank you for the carry. and if it fails. Well guess we make a new group and try again. Not a big deal. Better luck next time. Win some lose some. Failing is ok in games.

Funny when you personally don't even bother trying.