Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
That's not what is being discussed here (so I've been told). Most people playing are competent at the game, with like a C+ if we were grading. What you're talking about is a fraction of a fraction of the population that is largely trolls.


Truth be told, I'm not sure this widespread problem of horrible players is even a real thing. I can count on my hand the number of times I've met a player in DF who was awful and refused to improve.. most have been very agreeable and open to suggestions.

Those that I did meet were absolutely trolling the DF and easily kicked.

(I play on JP server, full disclosure; where the clowns are usually the English speakers)
the point of this thread was players not knowing how to play at level 80 in level 80 content, so it's not just 5% - at least on NA servers

NA servers are just different and being on JP servers, where the players have a completely different culture than the western ones, so I think it's not surprising that you barely run into those players compared to others playing on NA or even EU

I run into at least 2-3 every week that react negatively to even the tiniest bit of advice and who'd rather ruin the whole run because they behave like a spoiled child than continue to the dungeon or trial - for example, just yesterday I had an AST in sohr khai who stopped healing me when I nicely asked them to use malefic and gravity when they didn't have to heal me - and that casters should ABC if possible
90% of their time in the dungeon was then spent doing nothing but staring at enemies until the fight against hraesvalgr, where they started healing me again (though it wasn't needed cus PLD lol)