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    FedoraTheExplorer's Avatar
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    Roland Umbrosus
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    Brynhildr
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    Reaper Lv 100
    If you find content taking longer than usual so intolerable then just leave the group. You're not going to get a 60 minute dungeon unless a) you're playing with bots 2) something went seriously wrong and even then I doubt a dungeon could take so long regardless. None of you are obligated to "carry" people...?
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    SannaR's Avatar
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    Sanna Rosewood
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    Midgardsormr
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by FedoraTheExplorer View Post
    If you find content taking longer than usual so intolerable then just leave the group. You're not going to get a 60 minute dungeon unless a) you're playing with bots 2) something went seriously wrong and even then I doubt a dungeon could take so long regardless. None of you are obligated to "carry" people...?
    It's not about speed, though. Yes, doing more dps does lead to faster runs. It's about wishing people didn't feel It's always ok to be the tank I got while qued up for all of Gordias normal for my 180 for the current relics. There would just stand there and do nothing. Now yes that's a rare case, but many people would say that's fine you still cleared why should it matter? Or times when you get a group that can't clear the various dps checks in the game and you're the only one dead for the entire duration of said check. A lot of people are fine with slower runs if that's the skill level of the tank or healer or both. What people aren't fine with is the people who are like the sch back during HW I got during Stone Vigil that hadn't done their job quest so they didn't have leaches. Which lead to people dying cause they couldn't remove the debuffs nor heal good enough to make the debuffs matter. Yes they and their dps BF were kicked.

    Yet there's plenty of people who see that as acceptable play. Part of the reason why it's seen as acceptable is because no one wants to speak up either because it's not really worth it to correct things that are probably minor mistakes that only those who know the role see. The other is they don't want to chance getting belittled by someone for giving advice or asking them why do they not do X or Y.

    Are those time most likely far and few in-between? Sure, they could be. There also people who just want to get in do the things and get out as quickly as they can. It's why atm people kick others in Hell's Lid due to people spamming it for their relics. Why I'm sure it probably happened back when ARF used to be the thing to run.
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