Please implement something to teach players how to play

[Jadedsins]

I never said every dungeon has to be speedrun. I even pointed out, myself, in the post you just quoted, that there are other means of enjoying content that are reasonable from the context of its situation and form.

I'm arguing only the idea that no expectations can ever be set, one way or the other, just because the players we encounter are random, is pure bogus. Joining a general pool does not exempt you from any and all expectations.

I will add this, though: the group matters. That the others are random doesn't give us license to wave high a "difference of playstyle" banner and go unchanged, either; you are in a group. Refusing to change for the majority around you is to force change upon them, because it is a group activity. Our "right" to play how we want when that play differs from others' preferred playstyles, in a group, is necessarily going to be in conflict with their "right" to play how they want. And, on the onset, we're the 1, not the n-1. We don't each have a party's worth of power, nor should we. So let's not call the would-be despot the victim here.

When whatever behaviors that would seemingly maximize enjoyment or interests met among my party are opposed from what I would want to do, I either just deal with it for that brief time or I leave so they've a chance at a better fit with my replacement.

I understand what you were saying, I was just trying to point out that because DF groups don't have prerequisite on player skills. Anything one side can say about ruining fun, or dealing with people. Can be used by the other side. It is a losing battle for both sides.




It is like playing a board game, and the board game does not have any rules. You follow your own code, I follow mine. We can't argue with each other as the board game does not allow it. So who is right on how they play said board game? That is DF.