Quote Originally Posted by Fawkes View Post
Casual can be used either way, but casual as time investment is a completely worthless description. It's only useful if it means the type of content you engage with. If you would call someone who only logs in for an hour a week to clear Ultimate a "casual" then the word casual doesn't tell you anything about what type of player they are and there's no point in ever using the word. If someone describes themselves as a casual I'm going to think there is certain content they don't engage with, most likely because of the difficulty. Because that's what it means.
Gonna hard disagree.

That guy playing an hour a week and clearing ultimate is just more efficient with his time.

This is a hobby.

Anyone that doesn't take hobbies seriously enough to want to get decent at them should maybe find something else. It just boggles my mind. How can anyone not want to be good at things they enjoy?

And yes, I know folks that raid log. *Shrugs* i don't call quality of content the differing factor here.

All we end up with in the end is people crying they can't get PF groups or they got kicked or whatever and it's solely because they can't be bothered to take a hobby seriously enough to not be a hinderance.

I just do NOT understand it.