Please implement something to teach players how to play

[Shurrikhan]

It's not a request if a kick is the alternative for rejecting that request.

It is the only alternative by which 3 out of 4 players are not compelled to play the style of the 1 of 4. That does not mean the kick must occur. It only means that it's utter bull to call the alternative, by which the 1 in 4 rules by default, not a compelled play style.

To clarify, let's take a look at the actual rule: "Expressions that compel a playing style."

Then we're left with the old "Since only communication is punishable, just kick immediately to ensure there is no context from which intent may be inferred, since blanket reasons for a kick (including "Differing Playstyles) are always protected." Great.

Of the above two polite statements, the first comes closer to being an expression that compels a play style as it is telling others what to do while the second is a personal statement.

Equally:
"Myself and the remainder of the party apart from you want X."
"That's nice but I want Y and I have control by default so... /shrug."

So which is more thoroughly compelling one's play style upon others?

No, I get it. The second is protected on a technicality and asking for the odd man out not to force their play style on others is against the ToA. I get that. But that's also complete rubbish.

[linayar]

It is the only alternative by which 3 out of 4 players are not compelled to play the style of the 1 of 4. That does not mean the kick must occur. It only means that it's utter bull to call the alternative, by which the 1 in 4 rules by default, not a compelled play style.


Then we're left with the old "Since only communication is punishable, just kick immediately to ensure there is no context from which intent may be inferred, since blanket reasons for a kick (including "Differing Playstyles) are always protected." Great.


Equally:
"Myself and the remainder of the party apart from you want X."
"That's nice but I want Y and I have control by default so... /shrug."

So which is more thoroughly compelling one's play style upon others?

No, I get it. The second is protected on a technicality and asking for the odd man out not to force their play style on others is against the ToA. I get that. But that's also complete rubbish.

It's not a complete rubbish when the role responsibility is distributed that way.

Otherwise, you get "you pull, you tank" mentality (which I disagree with, but I can understand if people are going to play the "you're in the minority" card on tanks).

The tank role is the one that has to make sure to engage all enemies. That's why they're the ones that should determine minimum pull size based on what they're comfortable doing.

Meanwhile, the healer+DPS determines maximum pull size as a limiter to the tank. If the tank pulls more than the party can handle, then it's a wipe.

Taken together, the pull size is what everyone is comfortable with and can handle. Thus, it's a party effort.

On the matter of the kick, if more people are willing to report getting kicks, I'd like to see "differing playstyles" be challenged as it's not an option given in the menu. They should either add it (with user input to clarify) or otherwise clarify the rule uniformly, not just let random GM decide on their own.

With that said, a vote kick is a tool that has been provided, so feel free to use it in the manner not breaking the rules and let the tank find another party if it passes.