Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
The problem is many players are choosing not to respect other players by playing so poorly; they are choosing not to use their kit properly (or just simply not using skills altogether). They become a burden, wasting other players time, and having to be carried through content they couldn't otherwise complete; there are times when content can't even be cleared, because of this since not everyone is pulling their weight. In party based content players are meant to actually work together.
I hear your point, i really do, but theses so called standards only exist if everyone agrees to them, if you want speed runs/achievement runs/skipped CS's/excreta you go in to that with everyone wanting that, sometimes people want to be lazy and just take it slow, and i know how frustrating it can be when in a hurry, but if its randoms from DF then you cant dictate their involvement in play.

trust me when i say this, make your own grps and you will be much happier, or you will spend all your time trying to heard cats..

its not worth the effort, and you wont win against someone not wanting to participate, and you harassing them for it and catching a ban will do nothing, only queue with your FC if it bothers you, or try to just say F-it and enjoy the ride not the the chest at the end.