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    Jojoya Joya
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Yeol View Post
    If we assume best is 100, OK would be around 45~55.
    Anyone asking for more than that in a normal duty is being unrealistic. You can ignore them because they are trouble regardless.

    Focus on the real issue which is the average player performing 15~20 thinking they are 45~55.

    This topic suggests giving information/ideas that can maybe fix this issue. Yet you completely ignore this and focus on the unrealistic performance?

    In my book, anyone who reads their tooltip and understands the 'design' of the job can easily do well.
    How do you know they're performing at 15-20 compared to the entirety of the player base?

    If you're making that assumption off what gets uploaded to FFLogs, you're not getting a true sample of performance from the player base in general let alone a complete report of all player performance. All you're seeing is what someone bothered to upload. Considering the logs are mainly relevant to the high end raiding community, the majority of the community aren't going to be recorded there because they're not doing high end content or they're doing it casually in pugs where there's unlikely to be anyone recording. Those 15-20 players might actually be 60-70 players if that data was getting collected from everyone.

    I get that the thread was intended to address what some players perceive as a problem. Go back to my original response on the first page of the thread:

    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    You can't teach someone who's not interested in learning. You can't get someone to put in effort when they feel the content is beneath them.

    Those who are willing to learn and put in effort are doing it already.
    You also don't know much about people if you think everyone is able to understand what they're supposed to do just from reading tooltips. Not everyone has critical thinking skills and yet the game is here for anyone to enjoy regardless of what their skill level is. There's a reason so many players ask for guides - they need someone else to figure things out and explain it in language they understand.

    There are a lot of players that won't even ask for a guide. Why? Because becoming a better player isn't necessary for them to enjoy the game. Their enjoyment is coming from sources other than performance.

    The game is here for everyone to enjoy regardless of their skill level. SE places no burden on anyone to "git gud". They've even gone as far as adding the easy and very easy modes to solo duties so no one will be blocked from MSQ progress. If you're running into someone in EX/Savage/Ultimate who can't cut it, by all means remove them from the group. Maybe if they get removed often enough, they finally have the motivation to become a better player.

    But it's not something that can be forced on players.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 07-15-2021 at 08:20 PM.