Please implement something to teach players how to play

[Wavaryen]

I mean, if by that logic. Someone queued up not watching a video before doing the content is not playing at your best.

Also, you need food buffs as well. You still not playing at your best if you don't at least bring that.

So unless you know the content ahead of time, and have all the buffs. You are ruining my fun because we are not getting the content done fast enough.


How dare you not want spoilers for the dungeon. You are wasting my time. You could have done that in the trust system.


it is a losing battle. This is the number one MMORPG for a reason. That is because it caters to players like my wife. What reason does it have to listen to this feedback when it is doing so well?

[Nethereal]

I mean, if by that logic. Someone queued up not watching a video before doing the content is not playing at your best.

Also, you need food buffs as well. You still not playing at your best if you don't at least bring that.

So unless you know the content ahead of time, and have all the buffs. You are ruining my fun because we are not getting the content done fast enough.


How dare you not want spoilers for the dungeon. You are wasting my time. You could have done that in the trust system.



Like I said, it is a losing battle. This is the number one MMORPG for a reason. That is because it caters to players like my wife. What reason does it have to listen to this feedback when it is doing so well?

You don't even know the concept of the word 'logic' so I don't know why you would bring that up.
Not to mention you're intentionally misinterpreting my words and abusing a strawman to white knight, sit down.

[ForteNightshade]

I mean, if by that logic. Someone queued up not watching a video before doing the content is not playing at your best.

Yes, because using a third party website (Youtube) is the same as refusing to use half your in-game toolkit. If you're going to build a strawman. At least put some effort into it. Oh, wait. Putting effort into anything ruins your fun. I suppose, I shouldn't be surprised then.

[Wavaryen]

You don't even know the concept of the word 'logic' so I don't know why you would bring that up.
Not to mention you're intentionally misinterpreting my words and abusing a strawman to white knight, sit down.

You are using words you clearly don't understand. So here let me help you out. I'm a nice guy and since this thread is all about teaching let me teach you.


All of your examples you used and reasons. I can use the same for mine. You following me now? See, that is why noone has a right to set a standard in a pug. As my wife put it. That is common sense.


Now I did my good deed for the day.

Yes, because using a third party website (Youtube) is the same as refusing to use half your in-game toolkit. If you're going to build a strawman. At least put some effort into it. Oh, wait. Putting effort into anything ruins your fun. I suppose, I shouldn't be surprised then.

Unless the content requires the person to play how you want to get done. It is not required or needed for the player to do it. Hey I get to teach two people.

I'm in a pretty good mood today.

[MiaShino]

By the twelve now the other trog is here..

Since you are kinda new to the community (by join date) my advice to you is to get use to players like my wife in a pug settings.

Nahhh, hard pass from me. Those new chad sprouts through, ohhhhh boy I do so like them!

I think you dropped this.

[Nethereal]

You are using words you clearly don't understand. So here let me help you out. I'm a nice guy and since this thread is all about teaching let me teach you.


All of your examples you used and reasons. I can use the same for mine. You following me now? See, that is why noone has a right to set a standard in a pug. As my wife put it. That is common sense.


Now I did my good deed for the day.



Unless the content requires the person to play how you want to get done. It is not required or needed for the player to do it.

You don't think about what comes out of your head do you? The only coherent legible part of this post was your saltiness.

[Wavaryen]

You don't think about what comes out of your head do you? The only coherent legible part of this post was your saltiness.

? How does me helping you turn to saltness. I don't get it, but hey at least I tried. I'm not going to be upset if you don't want to follow my advice. You will learn sooner or later. *shrugs*

By the twelve now the other trog is here..



Nahhh, hard pass from me. Those new chad sprouts through, ohhhhh boy I do so like them!

I think you dropped this.

I don't mind "chad" sprouts, but they will find out the hard way what happens if you call people out in a pug settings, and how many people get in trouble for harassing. The stuff you got away with in wow will not work here.

[Faafetai]

Dang. You pulled out the Darlin card. My wife did a pretty good job getting on your nerves huh? I understand how it is. No worries.

Anyway, I already gave you the answer. Let Trusts be duoed and let the community teach people using it. You can't add content design around "teaching" because classes always change. And making the content harder. You would just have people life my wife that would get me to do it for her. Or people just won't do it.

Hehehe How do you know about the darlin' card that is a very close family secret guarded by my grandfathers grandfathers late cousin twice removed! Though, you have given an answer, and those are great ideas, but most of the content I have been talking about is the class quests that could use tweaking. If you read any of it. I have not said I want harder content, I want the wonkiness fixed. Everytime you both come into the thread it goes into a sideways loop 'd ' loop of nonsense involving smugness of how 'the toxic casuals are going to take over' and 'get use to it'. This is why 'the darlin' card was used'

There is A being spoken about, than people come in talking about Z but instead of people ignoring Z, because it has no relevant, we have decided to continue to talk about Z. Z has been spoken about for most of this thread. Z has no relevance to the the thread. Why is everyone still speaking about Z, who knows.

Auwe, the first thread I join because of frustrations with my class missions after looking up how to post a bug report has devolved into a slap fight between two cumulonimbus clouds. As the old sailor term goes, Pink sky at night sailors delight, but pink sky in morning sailors take warning or however it is in English. This would be the latter. I'd rather not even sail through it, It would not be worth losing a ship.

Edit: complete honesty though sometimes I do wish voices and inflexion could be shown within the words being typed. I do not think I have ever facepalmed so hard in my life and how people have taken what I have written. I may need to do more research, should I be angry about something? Was this the intent of some of you and your wifes comments? To invoke anger? Thank you for the information.

[Wavaryen]

Hehehe How do you know about the darlin' card that is a very close family secret guarded by my grandfathers grandfathers late cousin twice removed! Though, you have given an answer, and those are great ideas, but most of the content I have been talking about is the class quests that could use tweaking. If you read any of it. I have not said I want harder content, I want the wonkiness fixed. Everytime you both come into the thread it goes into a sideways loop 'd ' loop of nonsense involving smugness of how 'the toxic casuals are going to take over' and 'get use to it'. This is why 'the darlin' card was used'

There is A being spoken about, than people come in talking about Z but instead of people ignoring Z, because it has no relevant, we have decided to continue to talk about Z. Z has been spoken about for most of this thread. Z has no relevance to the the thread. Why is everyone still speaking about Z, who knows.

Auwe, the first thread I join because of frustrations with my class missions after looking up how to post a bug report has devolved into a slap fight between two cumulonimbus clouds. As the old sailor term goes, Pink sky at night sailors delight, but pink sky in morning sailors take warning or however it is in English. This would be the latter. I'd rather not even sail through it, It would not be worth losing a ship.

Ya but the game design kinda went away from that really. Like with the easy mode MSQ and stuff. I'm a old school spirit. I find that guilds and or Linkshells building a social network is the best way to get what you want and not have to deal with pug groups. Sadly though convenience of push to play kinda made it so players did not need to be social.


So Im trying to look at it from a developer point of view. Like is it really worth adding? As fast as they push content, and hard as they work. They might just not have the time


I do agree with you on the class missions, but our classes have took some major revamp over the years. And it might be a time thing the reason why they don't do a solo duty that teaches players class. Because they would have to update it each time they do some major changes and add new skills. It would be a ton of work. So the community is the only thing that can really fix it I think anyway.

[MiaShino]

I don't mind "chad" sprouts, but they will find out the hard way what happens if you call people out in a pug settings, and how many people get in trouble for harassing. The stuff you got away with in wow will not work here.

Huh? Are you okay? Wait wait, you think I played WoW. Ohh bless your little heart. Tell me, have you read Of Mice and Men? It is a nice book.

I did play Aion though, twas one of my first mmorpgs and a most fun one too.

You don't think about what comes out of your head do you? The only coherent legible part of this post was your saltiness.

Wish to know something truly terrifying? He claims to work with CAD. You might think he would understand what a null pointer exception is.. because that is this thread in nutshell.