Please implement something to teach players how to play

[technole]

That's literally because of the influx and good players unsubbing temporarily.

Yep, it's a lul period in the game now where all content has been out for awhile, and nothing new until expansion. A good chunk of better players don't spend much time or any at all. Why even do roulettes when we have been best-in-slot for months because of savage? Anyone doing that stuff now is likely filling whatever is left on capping alt jobs, newer, or the like.

There will be a dramatic difference in overall player performance during expansion early access, it's always like this.

[lezard21]

That's literally because of the influx and good players unsubbing temporarily.

Then the game needs to do more to keep the good players around. Give players that clear current Raid tier or Ultimate 3 months of free gameplay. Or give them access to a special ward in housing areas where all houses are mansions but cheaper to get so long as you have the corresponding title to buy them.

2) That's just an enrage mechanic

A pseudo-enrage mechanic. It would kill the player that failed the DPS check, not the entire party. Once the player gets tired of constantly dieing he will be motivated to learn how to play his class.

I agree to an extent but when I hear stuff like pull more than one group of mobs then I'm like I never read that particular tooltip.

It's under Prohibited Actions of the ToS-> Obstruction of Play. You are preventing people from progressing with the game by purposefully pulling single group of mobs.

[TaleraRistain]

It's under Prohibited Actions of the ToS-> Obstruction of Play. You are preventing people from progressing with the game by purposefully pulling single group of mobs.

That is the funniest thing I've seen all day. The dungeon not going as fast as you might prefer is not preventing you from progressing. If the tank is pulling mobs, and the group is killing them and moving through the dungeon then...you're progressing.

[Vahlnir]

That is the funniest thing I've seen all day. The dungeon not going as fast as you might prefer is not preventing you from progressing. If the tank is pulling mobs, and the group is killing them and moving through the dungeon then...you're progressing.

I'm really not sure how they connected those dots. Also not sure how I missed that in their post. Wow is all I have to say. Just because a group is slow doesn't mean they are breaking the ToS. lol That's some major grasping at straws.

[Fellgon]

Then the game needs to do more to keep the good players around. Give players that clear current Raid tier or Ultimate 3 months of free gameplay. Or give them access to a special ward in housing areas where all houses are mansions but cheaper to get so long as you have the corresponding title to buy them.



A pseudo-enrage mechanic. It would kill the player that failed the DPS check, not the entire party. Once the player gets tired of constantly dieing he will be motivated to learn how to play his class.



It's under Prohibited Actions of the ToS-> Obstruction of Play. You are preventing people from progressing with the game by purposefully pulling single group of mobs.

Not really, big pulls are for experieced players. The new players preffer feel how it works slowly. Specially for new healers, to know better how spells work.

[Fawkes]

I think that the best and most fair solution would be to have dungeons, trials, raids, etc. have an individual minimum DPS objective. If you fail to meet that objective you are not able to roll for loot or it doesn't count for quest completition.

Or add time objectives to dungeons, example finish within 20 minutes and you get bonus gil/exp/items, finish within 21-30 minutes and you get normal exp/gil/items, take more than 30 minutes and you don't get rewards.

The people who need the rewards the most are the ones who take the longest, though. You want to run with people who can't do their rotation AND have worse gear than what a dungeon gives?

- A dungeon where the groups of mobs respawn if you don't pull and kill them altogether (like that Guildhest no one runs) to teach tanks to do wall to wall pulls

They literally do the opposite and put gates/doors in dungeons to prevent bigger pulls, which they've been doing since ARR. They saw how people wanted to run from the start straight to the boss in Amdapor Keep and said "No".

It's under Prohibited Actions of the ToS-> Obstruction of Play. You are preventing people from progressing with the game by purposefully pulling single group of mobs.

But you're compelling a certain playstyle, which is also against the ToS.

[Shurrikhan]

But you're compelling a certain playstyle, which is also against the ToS.

And the tank refusing to pull more than a single pack despite needing no more than a precast HoT or shield and a single oGCD to remain healthy throughout... isn't compelling a certain playstyle?

[Kes13a]

And the tank refusing to pull more than a single pack despite needing no more than a precast HoT or shield and a single oGCD to remain healthy throughout... isn't compelling a certain playstyle?

generally why when I tank, I tank with people in my fc since I am slow, I admit I am not a confident tank and since I main healer, I tend to know where things get tight if the tank has blown their mitigation. So I dont usually rush things through faster than I am comfortable with.

[Kes13a]

It's under Prohibited Actions of the ToS-> Obstruction of Play. You are preventing people from progressing with the game by purposefully pulling single group of mobs.

excuse me what? you mean not progressing as fast as you want.... because last I checked, finishing the run is progressing. amount pulled depends on playstyle, so its your view that both healer and tank should be stressed because they arent going fast enough for you?

[Kaylal]

excuse me what? you mean not progressing as fast as you want.... because last I checked, finishing the run is progressing. amount pulled depends on playstyle, so its your view that both healer and tank should be stressed because they arent going fast enough for you?

You're so right. This is a perfect example of a long-term FF14 player who knows the system inside out, and considers any other playstyle "wrong". Which, if nothing else, is a selfish attitude. As a player who has just transitioned from WoW, the tank charging about gathering everything in sight is horrifying. That's how you wipe! Then there's the other element; WHY are you in such a rush?? So you can go do other stuff and get more mad lootz?? OK, that's what tickles your fancy and that's fine...but it's not what I'm after. I'm after the story. After all, I never intend to come back to this dungeon because I *don't* like group content. And that's MY playstyle...

Honestly, this is the one factor that may force me to go back to WoW; toxic and grindy, and stupid as it is. There, I don't have to do dungeons if I don't want to. I'm not going to get the best loot and that's fine; I don't need it for open world content. But in FF14 if I want to advance the story, I have no choice; I HAVE to do group content. I have a level 36 character at the moment who hasn't been contacted by a Grand Company...whatever that is, who can't get a mount, who has no idea where to go to see more of the main story and I think I've figured out that it's because I haven't done any dungeons beyond Tam-Tara (although nowhere is that stated in exactly those words...not in any doco, website, youtube video, tutorial or anywhere else). And that makes me very uncomfortable for exactly the expectations expressed by some in this thread. "You're not doing it right!" I don't want to bother other people by not playing they way they expect me to. Nor do I want to have to rely on others to play through the game; I just want to be left alone.

Kes13a is correct; the only way to NOT do any content correctly is if you wipe and don't complete it, and hopefully if that happens all the players learn something. There's an element of finishing it in a reasonable amount of time as well, I will concede that. But if we finish in 20 minutes instead of 15, what does it really matter?? This is a game, for goodness sake, and one that gives nothing tangible. It's just us First World people wasting time for our pleasure; we don't need to do this to earn a living.