Please implement something to teach players how to play

[Jadedsins]

So if my play style is roleplaying in the party chat without using any skills on any one other than popping a cure 1 on myself, that’s fine right? I mean, that’s how I want to play the game, and you should respect my right to play how I want. You don’t pay my sub.

And let’s say the other two don’t have a problem with it. It’s just you. We’re progressing at turtle speed because everyone’s dying but like… I don’t care, and you should respect that.

If the content gets done. I don't care. I would get a laugh if I saw that. I mean with how people talking about the content being too easy. I guess you will be doing a service to some players.

[MilkieTea]

If the content gets done. I don't care. I would get a laugh if I saw that. I mean with how people talking about the content being too easy. I guess you will be doing a service to some players.

Mhm, and let’s say it doesn’t get done because it goes on too long?

You still can’t call me out on it, it’s my playstyle to let the dungeon timer run out! I just wanna see the pretty colors on cure 1! Respect my playstyle! Otherwise youre infringing upon my in game right to play however I want, regardless of other people’s time and energy. I don’t care about you, I care about MY fun. *I* want the timer to run out, *I* play the game like that. *I* only play for myself, *I* only want to have fun for myself, without a care for others. You should respect that right, since you’re all about respecting your own playstyle. Other people being selfish shouldn’t matter to you, right?

[MilkieTea]

Why are you doing a pug group if you fun is ruined by players who play like me?





I'm ok with that? Like even if I don't progress, even if it takes the whole timer. I will still have fun, and hope you did also. like I said, I go into pugs with the right mindset.

Mhm, sure you do.

[Jadedsins]

Mhm, sure you do.

I mean many players are just like me in this game. If you are not use to it by now...well I promise you. It will not be changing. I've been around for a long time. So about time you got use to it.

[Faafetai]

Mhm, sure you do.

With those types of people, they will always say it is okay, until it is done to them. I would bet this cart full of fat cats on it.

[Jadedsins]

With those types of people, they will always say it is okay, until it is done to them. I would bet this cart full of fat cats on it.

Not like it matters if you believe me or not. When you are on the losing side of the debate. This is a classic move to deflect. I respect it.

I don't think that word means what you think it means.

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(of a person, action, or motive) lacking consideration for others; concerned chiefly with one's own personal profit or pleasure.
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Thank you for making my point for me. It can be used on both sides. So it is silly to use it.



Stop being selfish and acting like people should play to your standards in a pug group. You did not make the group, so let people have fun.


I was getting worried with all this selfish talk. It is like people don't know the meaning of the word.



It is selfish to want your groups to go by faster at the cost of other peoples fun. A pug settings and the content is design for players like me. So your standards mean nothing and it is selfish to expect them from others in a pug settings.


The level of ego of wanting a pug group to be on the same standard as a Linkshell is amazing to me.

[Faafetai]

Not like it matters if you believe me or not. When you are on the losing side of the debate.

Sorry darlin', but I am no longer in the 'debate'. Your debates are like a childs slapping competition, sad and unenjoyable. I don't care if I win or lose a debate, but the 'debate' ends when the other side is just trying to derail a thread. This thread is not about how people play the game, it is about those wishing to learn, and how to better teach those who actually wish to learn within the game, not watching outdated youtube videos.

To go back to the actual topic, I was doing the level 65 Scholar quest. I have a few new skills I would like to get the hang of at that level, and find that my party is finally able to be aoe healed, which was amazing. The thing that was not amazing was that I was depending on Excogitation to heal the npc character who was tanking within the quest. That is something else I would like to change about the class quest for teaching purposes. How am I suppose to get use to using abilities if most of them never worked during the quests? These are mandatory, presumably, to teach me the skills I have acquired throughout the leveling process. When none of them work, how can I even see how they interact before being thrown into a dungeon with that particular class? Not to mention I have been noticing the skill you get from the quest is usually the skill you would have wanted to practice during that mission. You don't though, you get it after the mission it would have been perfect for, such as the astro's aoe during the quest with a ton of dudes.

[Nethereal]

Thank you for making my point for me. It can be used on both sides. So it is silly to use it.
Stop being selfish and acting like people should play to your standards in a pug group. You did not make the group, so let people have fun.

I don't think you know what any of those words you're using mean but I don't want to link 10+ definitions.
This isn't really about time as you keep using that as your strawman.
Since you've given us a view into your mind I'm curious how you feel about this.

I only see one side being selfish here.

Ok, I'm doing the best I can with how I'm willing to play. So no problem at all. content gets done everyone happy.

I'll be generous at least 55% of everyone who queues for roulette does it for the completion reward.
That means that if you were to join a pf 3/4 people would only be there to finish the dungeon. As long as you clear it doesn't matter how long it takes.
Now lets say you run out the timer,

I'm ok with that? Like even if I don't progress, even if it takes the whole timer. I will still have fun, and hope you did also. like I said, I go into pugs with the right mindset.

But 3 other people cared about clearing and they're not having fun, only you. How is that not selfish?
You as a dps who in general doesn't dps, same as a healer who doesn't heal.

When I play melee. I don't do positionals because that is not fun. How many Monks have you group with that does not use movement? Or Sams? better yet, how many healers that don't dps but we still get content done. It happens. and as long as they are having fun and we get the content done. That is all that matters.

Except they're not having fun, because of you. How can you say you're not being selfish when

You are subjecting me to have less fun to save yourself

Did you make the group? No

I mean this is a common sense issue. If you did not make the group. You don't got the right to set standards

So why is it okay for you to make 3 other people not have fun because of the standards you set but it's not okay for you to not have fun because of their standards?

How can you say

I'm not selfish enough to want players to not have fun, just to save some time. If the content gets done.

While being okay with 3 other people not having fun and being the main contributor? Because you're selfish,

I'm ok with that? Like even if I don't progress, even if it takes the whole timer. I will still have fun, and hope you did also. like I said, I go into pugs with the right mindset.

You don't care about other people.
You're selfish, egocentric, and you just want your next fix and you'll tear down anything that might get in your way.

[MiaShino]

By the twelve now the other trog is here..

Since you are kinda new to the community (by join date) my advice to you is to get use to players like my wife in a pug settings.

Nahhh, hard pass from me. Those new chad sprouts through, ohhhhh boy I do so like them!

I think you dropped this.

[Wavaryen]

I mean, if by that logic. Someone queued up not watching a video before doing the content is not playing at your best.

Also, you need food buffs as well. You still not playing at your best if you don't at least bring that.

So unless you know the content ahead of time, and have all the buffs. You are ruining my fun because we are not getting the content done fast enough.


How dare you not want spoilers for the dungeon. You are wasting my time. You could have done that in the trust system.


it is a losing battle. This is the number one MMORPG for a reason. That is because it caters to players like my wife. What reason does it have to listen to this feedback when it is doing so well?