Please implement something to teach players how to play

[Jadedsins]

That is a big heap Chernobyl level toxicity. Playing as you describe is not how content, any content was designed. It was designed with the expectation that players would use most of the skills/spells available to them. Developers generally are not building things or giving players abilities you aren't meant to use.
Just because you can clear something in the allotted time does not mean it was intended to be, and just because something can be cleared by running around casting scathe, in an albeit slower pace, does not mean it was originally designed to be done that way.

Choosing to play that way with others is at best disrespectful to others' time. This is toxicity in one of its higher forms because it tries to flip the script on the typically toxic elite savage raiders demanding high dps, when in reality its just a bunch of normal people trying to play and get activities done in a reasonable amount of time.

As my husband said. I'm not in your linkshell, and the game made the party with no set rules. The content gets done even with me playing like this, and it gets done pretty quickly at that. Even if it did not get done quickly. I'm not in a group to make friends. We are just using each other for progression. If the game require me to play that way to beat the content. Than sure you can be upset and I would not belong in it.


The developers understand that tons of players like me. So my advice? Get use to it when it comes to doing DF. If that is being toxic. Well gladly will be toxic? I mean this weird "respect" thing when grouping must be a new player type thing, because like my husband said. UO, and heck even EQ. Did not have standards on pick up groups.


Now if I was in a LS, or doing high end content. Than your views would be on point. If you made a group and design the rules of said group. Again your standards would be acceptable. You did not make that group, and not one person myself or others have a right to tell anyone how to play what they enjoy in said group. That does not mean the group can't kick you though if you holding back.

[SannaR]

As my husband said. I'm not in your linkshell, and the game made the party with no set rules. The content gets done even with me playing like this, and it gets done pretty quickly at that. Even if it did not get done quickly. I'm not in a group to make friends. We are just using each other for progression. If the game require me to play that way to beat the content. Than sure you can be upset and I would not belong in it.


The developers understand that tons of players like me. So my advice? Get use to it when it comes to doing DF. If that is being toxic. Well gladly will be toxic? I mean this weird "respect" thing when grouping must be a new player type thing, because like my husband said. UO, and heck even EQ. Did not have standards on pick up groups.


Now if I was in a LS, or doing high end content. Than your views would be on point. If you made a group and design the rules of said group. Again your standards would be acceptable. You did not make that group, and not one person myself or others have a right to tell anyone how to play what they enjoy in said group. That does not mean the group can't kick you though if you holding back.

New player by what means? Cause even in FF XI would your play style would be seen as bad performance. As only end game content in XI was done by "guilds". Just about everything else was pug. Heck you sometimes even got shouts since there wasn't a PF or a DF for higher difficulty stuff. Again if you que by yourself you'd be the one who's being selfish as you'd be in the minority. Which is what those who've debated with you are assuming. Which I doubt you'd be doing as I'm sure you'd not do anything without your husband.

[Nethereal]

Ughhh.

Let the sins burn.

[Nethereal]

Oh god stop. It's already dead.

You don't have to be the best you just have to do your best.

[Jadedsins]

Oh god stop. It's already dead.

You don't have to be the best you just have to do your best.

Ok, I'm doing the best I can with how I'm willing to play. So no problem at all. content gets done everyone happy.


I mean this is a common sense issue. If you did not make the group. You don't got the right to set standards. Does not mean it can't happens that you can get others to agree. (be its rare).

[Bellsong]

This thread is a prime example of why difference in playstyle will always and forever be a valid vote kick reason.

[OranKells]

Its so hard to parse when the bad faith trolling ends and the actual toxic bad playing flower children begins. Not sure I'm engaging with a real person or just a moltres/titan/mpk character. The more time I spend on the forums I'm pretty sure its just the same 3 people with strawmen accounts talking at each other, sometimes to themselves.

Maybe Dalamud needs to crash on us again.

[Jadedsins]

This thread is a prime example of why difference in playstyle will always and forever be a valid vote kick reason.

I mean anything can be valid if you get other people to agree.

Its so hard to parse when the bad faith trolling ends and the actual toxic bad playing flower children begins. Not sure I'm engaging with a real person or just a moltres/titan/mpk character. The more time I spend on the forums I'm pretty sure its just the same 3 people with strawmen accounts talking at each other, sometimes to themselves.

Maybe Dalamud needs to crash on us again.

Just because I don't agree with you, does not mean I am trolling, or I am MPK or whatever. That is a silly take, but if it helps you deflect people who don't agree with you. More power to you.

[Novae]

Jadedsins is better than Titanmen at making people angry, but she's way less funny. I give her a B-.
You're welcome.

[Jadedsins]

Jadedsins is better than Titanmen at making people angry, but she's way less funny. I give her a B-.
You're welcome.

Thank you. As I was not trying to be funny. If people can't handle someone that does not agree with them. Well get angry for all I care lol.