Machinist needs help.

[Jirah]

Since SHB/EW style isn’t going anywhere MCH imo should homogenize and expand.

Turn Heat blast into a aoe, which means it’ll finally be aoe-able with Ricohet, Delete Gauss barrel and have it reset the skill full rather than 2 doing the same shit, Delete either WF or Barrel stabilizer and have each do each other’s role with WF instantly activating overheat or Barrel increasing potency of skills similar to skills like internal release or No mercy. And maybe ditch bio, flamethrower and chainsaw as all 3 of them don’t do shit and are just pointless filler, chainsaw could be a evolutionary trait to drill or just fine Air a extra charge if you want a third GCD so badly.

Or perhaps just delete Heat blast and turn MCH 1-2-3 rotation into some Gnashing fang affair when Heat is active, add Heat blast fake skill Speed to its 1-2-3 instead and have each skill reset your Charge skill (skill meaning singular) at the huge risk of playing too similarly to GNB. Maybe make a new skill that acts as a finisher after it concludes like Verflare . This is all incredibly unimaginative as it just borrows other ideas from RDM and GNB but just some word vomit I suppose.

[Warlyx]

Queen is one of the most boring skills ever

FT sucks why hasnt been removed , give mch a new aoe that burst bioblaster dot (similar to NIN doton+snakes or DRK salted earth + the new skill)

wildfire> charges already ....and maybe reset drill CD would be cool ...

another thing that would amazing if wildfire made that the target takes 10% more dmg but not gonna happen.

Barrel stabilizer : Makes next hypercharge free of cost

slug shot : lowers barrel stabilizer CD? or lowers Air anchor? chainsaw? cd for 5s

[Jirah]

Queen is one of the most boring skills ever

FT sucks why hasnt been removed , give mch a new aoe that burst bioblaster dot (similar to NIN doton+snakes or DRK salted earth + the new skill)

wildfire> charges already ....and maybe reset drill CD would be cool ...

another thing that would amazing if wildfire made that the target takes 10% more dmg but not gonna happen.

Barrel stabilizer : Makes next hypercharge free of cost

slug shot : lowers barrel stabilizer CD? or lowers Air anchor? chainsaw? cd for 5s

Slug suggestion would completely defeat the point of having a CD considering it’s a 1-2-3 skill and not utility of any kind. Skills that reset are OGCDs and MCH already has two it doesn’t need any more unless they expand upon the idea.

[CKNovel]

Slug suggestion would completely defeat the point of having a CD considering it’s a 1-2-3 skill and not utility of any kind. Skills that reset are OGCDs and MCH already has two it doesn’t need any more unless they expand upon the idea.

It could be expanded upon.
It could refund a charge of Gauss Round, making the 1 2 3 a bit less boring.
We need something to make 1 2 3 less boring anyway.

I still believe tying Heatblast and Gauss Round to a ammo gauge would work fine.

[Jirah]

It could be expanded upon.
It could refund a charge of Gauss Round, making the 1 2 3 a bit less boring.
We need something to make 1 2 3 less boring anyway.

I still believe tying Heatblast and Gauss Round to a ammo gauge would work fine.

Then it would be DRG without the DOT and positionals? A lesser DRG if you will. 1-2-3 already does like 2 different benign things in heat and battery idk if it would be “fun” for one charge when Heat blast does the same shit ever 20 sec. I’m all for making one of the worst rotations in the game more fun but other means are required

[MagiusNecros]

Flamethrower needs looked at. Needs to generate heat or synergize with Bioblaster.

Reassemble needs 3 Charges at 90 for Drill, Air Anchor, Chainsaw.

Barrel Stabilizer needs 2 charges.

Queen needs a longer base duration. Rook is ranged and can DPS right away while Queen needs to Star Trek Beam in and go boost to target effectively wasting 5 seconds to do anything. Also it's in the way and is a DoT. Very unengaging skill. I'd rather just hit button for BIG NUMBER and get it over with. If it's going to be a big skill have the MCH being close give some kind of buff or have every attack from the AQ Direct Crit or some shit. We also have the issue is that it's only ST and we have no AoE equivalent.

Hypercharge actions need to generate battery.

Both Hypercharge and Wildfire Bomb need a stack system instead of a timer to address Ping issues.

Gauss and Ricochet might benefit from more charges or a potency increase.

I feel like Heat gain should be increased if SHOTGUN is going to give you 50 heat in 5 gcds.

Beating a dead horse here but I think some of the changes would be preferable.

Probably still going to use MCH as a sub because of how braindead easy it is. Also Dreadwyrm Handgonne best gun. ^_^b

[Warlyx]

Flamethrower needs looked at. Needs to generate heat or synergize with Bioblaster.

Reassemble needs 3 Charges at 90 for Drill, Air Anchor, Chainsaw.

Barrel Stabilizer needs 2 charges.

Queen needs a longer base duration. Rook is ranged and can DPS right away while Queen needs to Star Trek Beam in and go boost to target effectively wasting 5 seconds to do anything. Also it's in the way and is a DoT. Very unengaging skill. I'd rather just hit button for BIG NUMBER and get it over with. If it's going to be a big skill have the MCH being close give some kind of buff or have every attack from the AQ Direct Crit or some shit. We also have the issue is that it's only ST and we have no AoE equivalent.

Hypercharge actions need to generate battery.

Both Hypercharge and Wildfire Bomb need a stack system instead of a timer to address Ping issues.

Gauss and Ricochet might benefit from more charges or a potency increase.

I feel like Heat gain should be increased if SHOTGUN is going to give you 50 heat in 5 gcds.

Beating a dead horse here but I think some of the changes would be preferable.

Probably still going to use MCH as a sub because of how braindead easy it is. Also Dreadwyrm Handgonne best gun. ^_^b

u forgot > crossbow needs to lowers ricochet CD ....why doesnt already is something i will never understand

[CKNovel]

u forgot > crossbow needs to lowers ricochet CD ....why doesnt already is something i will never understand

Using current numbers:
ACB is 120 PPS.
FT is 100 PPS.
Ricochet every 2 ACB would be 50 PPS.
Spreadshot is 72 PPS and 5 heat.

Assuming ACB would reduce R cooldown by 15s, that would raise ACB potency worth to 145 pps.
FT over 10 seconds is 1000-1100 potency.
ACB+R over 10 seconds would be 1450 potency.
Spreadshot over 10 seconds is 720 potency.

With scattergun on higher potency and generating 10 heat, it's obvious that Flamethrower would die and its only optimal use would be tick fishing or using the downtime to grab a coffee.
Which I wouldn't mind if Flamethrower was truly relegated to the emote state until they rework it.

It's probably the most boring Flamethrower I've ever seen in a video game.

[Jirah]

Using current numbers:
ACB is 120 PPS.
FT is 100 PPS.
Ricochet every 2 ACB would be 50 PPS.
Spreadshot is 72 PPS and 5 heat.

Assuming ACB would reduce R cooldown by 15s, that would raise ACB potency worth to 145 pps.
FT over 10 seconds is 1000-1100 potency.
ACB+R over 10 seconds would be 1450 potency.
Spreadshot over 10 seconds is 720 potency.

With scattergun on higher potency and generating 10 heat, it's obvious that Flamethrower would die and its only optimal use would be tick fishing or using the downtime to grab a coffee.
Which I wouldn't mind if Flamethrower was truly relegated to the emote state until they rework it.

It's probably the most boring Flamethrower I've ever seen in a video game.

Scattergun spam is hardly something I see Mash mains looking forward to as a aoe, then again they foamed at the mouth for a aoe of all things rather than question why a 90 job stills spammd crap for damage like a Healer. The heat generation kinda trumps flamethrower popular solution to generate heat. Unless it’s potency is increased by a lot It can’t compare to it….but if MCH aoe was reworked in a way perhaps it can work. Another solution is being a heat generator during transitions like Meditate or old Improv, a very awkward one at that. Otherwise what can you do with this?

[MagiusNecros]

Scattergun spam is hardly something I see Mash mains looking forward to as a aoe, then again they foamed at the mouth for a aoe of all things rather than question why a 90 job stills spammd crap for damage like a Healer. The heat generation kinda trumps flamethrower popular solution to generate heat. Unless it’s potency is increased by a lot It can’t compare to it….but if MCH aoe was reworked in a way perhaps it can work. Another solution is being a heat generator during transitions like Meditate or old Improv, a very awkward one at that. Otherwise what can you do with this?

Make flamethrower use up the 100 Heat Gauge as a powerful AoE option that trumps Autocrossbow or change the way Flamethrower works. The whole channeled ability on a mobile class is bad design. If you have to sit in one spot it has to be STRONG. And Flamethrower is weak as shit.

So you either make it weak and generate a resource for your gauge or you make it do big damage over time.

Because like people have said Flamethrower only seems useful when you stack it with Bioblaster or if you are tired and don't want to press buttons for 10 seconds.

Unless Auto can be used it will be more efficient to use SHOTGUN over Flamethrower at any given time.

Media Tour values have potencies with a 20% decrease so let's use the current system with FT being 100 potency with a tick each second for 1000 potency.

And bumping up 150 potency from Shotgun to 180. So across 4 GCDS at a 2.44 recast with that value is 720. But you'd generate 40 heat in the same timeframe.

But the reality is that there isn't many situations where you will get the full 10 seconds of Flamethrower to get full potency and you generate no heat.

So a wide variety of scenarios dictates that a stationary skill that requires 10 seconds for full damage and has very low chance to crit and generates no resource is objectively worse then a skill you can force to direct crit, generate 10 heat per GCD and are completely mobile while doing so.

Media Tour values would place FT at 800 across 10 seconds and 600 across 4 gcds for Scatter. If you can push 5 gcds it would be 700 so one 100 behind Flamethrower but you'd also generate 50 heat so....

TLDR Flamethrower is shit.