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    CKNovel's Avatar
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    Cassia Kaedhan
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    Ragnarok
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Dianoia View Post
    To add some clarity here, you're showing max percentiles, or the very best players' performance in the jobs. At other ranges, MCH fairs better. It is highly probable to get into a savage or EX trial as MCH and have the top DPS parse. I doubt there will be mass boycotts of MCH on party finder based on this data. If it were consistent across a greater range of performance, then maybe.

    Regardless, you are right in that every other job can do what MCH does but better.
    I do agree that MAX percentile is not the data to use as it includes lucky crit, pots and good teammates when it comes to job with rDPS.
    90th percentile shows the job potential if you plays it correctly with a few mistakes.
    At 75th percentile and belows shows where people goofed their rotation or got KO'd at the end of a run.
    At 50th and below shows people who got KO'd and are doing massive mistakes in their rotation.
    Since the MCH is the "least punished", it will go higher as the percentile drops.

    I'm still wondering why should you pick a MCH.
    All ranged can offer Tacticians, which means in the equation, MCH only offers DPS. Which it doesn't even offers since it performs lower at an acceptable level.
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    Aelona Chillwind
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    Lich
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by CKNovel View Post
    I do agree that MAX percentile is not the data to use as it includes lucky crit, pots and good teammates when it comes to job with rDPS.
    90th percentile shows the job potential if you plays it correctly with a few mistakes.
    At 75th percentile and belows shows where people goofed their rotation or got KO'd at the end of a run.
    At 50th and below shows people who got KO'd and are doing massive mistakes in their rotation.
    Since the MCH is the "least punished", it will go higher as the percentile drops.

    I'm still wondering why should you pick a MCH.
    All ranged can offer Tacticians, which means in the equation, MCH only offers DPS. Which it doesn't even offers since it performs lower at an acceptable level.
    Raid buff and from my pov at least taking a MCH is generally a safe bet because it's fairly easy to perform at a solid level with.
    I'd trust the average MCH over the average BLM to dish out good enough damage.

    And as a side note too even if the player skill is equal I've never been bothered by a '' low dps Job '' in my party, every Job can clear if we fail it's not because of the Job.
    It might technically speaking be in some way, but we still must've screwed up badly for it to make a difference and I dunno if we '' deserved '' the kill at that point.
    Not really commenting on whether MCH is or isn't balanced but moreso this idea that MCH will be locked out, I don't believe that will happen.
    I've never had a MCH join my party and been all like '' oh no ''.
    But if a NIN joins the party for example what enters my mind is '' is this person actually going to use trick attack? ''.
    And the answer to that is either a no or very inconsistently more often than I'd like.
    And that's just the one thing, there's a lot of other stuff people screw up constantly on NIN especially in stressful situations.

    I think this is something MCH players think about more than others do, which is understandable.
    But I don't believe what goes through most peoples heads when they invite people is '' oh no a MCH such low dps ''.


    Quote Originally Posted by Riszyn View Post
    This was exactly why I made my comment, as a greedy dps classification, our numbers are pretty bad. We need our potency's buffed so that we can sit comfortably in the top 5, or we need multiple tools that will allow us to stand on better ground with bard for raid buffs. Where we are currently, is just really really bad.
    Remember when BRD and MCH had cast times?
    I wonder if the devs were thinking of buffing them up to caster dps.

    I actually really wish we could get a Sniper job with cast times, SWTOR have one and I think it's a really cool and unique class.
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    Last edited by Kolsykol; 12-29-2021 at 06:25 PM.

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