Machinist needs help.

[Seraphor]

I have no problem with standing still for 10s to channel a turret skill. The alternative is Spreadshot spam.
It's just like Phantom Flurry, one of BLU's best spells.

And sure, it's just for Dungeons and Alliance Raids, because you generally don't AoE at all in hard content. So it's perfectly fine to have a channelled turret skill in casual content, and it even serves as a welcome break from the constant jackhammering of your keyboard/controller for some.
I enjoy the change of pace it brings to dungeon pulls, and that it mixes up your tempo. That's also why I like Ninja.

If you're only doing 'hard' content, then why would you be at all concerned with Flamethrower?
"Just delete the stuff I personally don't use" yeah... no.

[CKNovel]

If you're only doing 'hard' content, then why would you be at all concerned with Flamethrower?
"Just delete the stuff I personally don't use" yeah... no.

I play MCH in most content since HW, that's why I keep saying ShB MCH was designed for dungeons and not Raiding.
Even in Dungeons, it's not fun to press Flamethrower. And that's a problem with MCH about most buttons, Queen and Wildfire for example, press and forget, wait for their effects.
You cannot compare Phantom Flurry and Flamethrower, surely you can understand the major differences between the two?
FT is 10 seconds of nothing, Phantom Flurry is 5 seconds then interrupt with the final kick.

Quick lesson: There is something known as "tick fishing". It's not worth the trouble but basically you use Flamethrower before a boss is targetable again and you pray for a tick to connect before you hit your GCD.
It's not worth the trouble, again.

The initial problem is that MCH lacks buttons to press, this is why I care about Flamethrower being good and relevant in Hard content and dungeon/bozja content. Errr... Forget what I said, there is much better lost actions AoE in Bozja.
MCH has too much AoE and one of them is an emote that does damage. That's a fact, not an opinion. If you like its design, good for you. But I'm not the only one asking for a rework of this crappy ability.
There are many pages about complains about MCH you can find here and there.

[Kabooa]

I play MCH in most content since HW, that's why I keep saying ShB MCH was designed for dungeons and not Raiding.

Hard disagree.

Machinist feels awful in dungeons.

[Jirah]

Hard disagree.

Machinist feels awful in dungeons.

sadly i agree, its Aoe kit is just as wonky and off handed as its ST kit

[Jirah]

I have no problem with standing still for 10s to channel a turret skill. The alternative is Spreadshot spam.
It's just like Phantom Flurry, one of BLU's best spells.

And sure, it's just for Dungeons and Alliance Raids, because you generally don't AoE at all in hard content. So it's perfectly fine to have a channelled turret skill in casual content, and it even serves as a welcome break from the constant jackhammering of your keyboard/controller for some.
I enjoy the change of pace it brings to dungeon pulls, and that it mixes up your tempo. That's also why I like Ninja.

If you're only doing 'hard' content, then why would you be at all concerned with Flamethrower?
"Just delete the stuff I personally don't use" yeah... no.

I cannot stand how most MCH are this passive, idk what happened between 4.0 and 5.0 MCH mains but i remember their desires and wishes being somewhat logical and constructive and atleast had ambitious ideas. MCH has alot of pointless chaff, flamethrower being probably the most lateral example among others, it adds nothing to its kit and id much rather see it be useful and intuitive than forgettable and pointless

[ReiganCross]

I cannot stand how most MCH are this passive, idk what happened between 4.0 and 5.0 MCH mains but i remember their desires and wishes being somewhat logical and constructive and atleast had ambitious ideas. MCH has alot of pointless chaff, flamethrower being probably the most lateral example among others, it adds nothing to its kit and id much rather see it be useful and intuitive than forgettable and pointless

I kind of want Flamethrower to do more DPS on an Area than the regular combo does in single target, and also fill up Heat Gauge (After all, FLAMEthrower.) I'm talking like 200~300 potency per second to deal damage as if you were throwing a combo with a Ricochet Weaved into every attack.
That would make people want to use it on goddamn Cooldown and it would make it useful even on bosses, which is 99% of Endgame since they seem to be phasing out Trash mobs out of... Everywhere. Just make it a part of the actual MCH kit, y'know?