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  1. #91
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    Jirah's Avatar
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    Jira Dal'riata
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    Bard Lv 100
    Ima be haunting these forums for awhile, all it freaking got was AOES! The main job plays the exact same
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  2. #92
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    Cassia Kaedhan
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    How do we even submit feedback?

    Role actions got no changes either, we're probably still going to suffer Peloton and other useless role action.
    Even RDM got more changes, best hope is 6.1.

    But I'm not suffering the same boring job for another two years.
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  3. #93
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    Lythia Norvaine
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jirah View Post
    How exactly does a OGCD make a job more fun?
    I wasn't even expecting them to release Chain Saw, let alone know whether it would be GCD or oGCD. It was just a completely wild guess that I made before the live letter based on FFVI's Edgar. They didn't even reference this in FFXV's tool list, so it was really a long shot.

    And it's worth noting that for some of us who have been playing FF games since early childhood, seeing an random ability reference that dates back 27 years is kind of mind-blowing. It's kind of like how when they dropped the word 'Blitz' on MNK I'm sure a few people immediately flailed wildly at the reference to Sabin, while there's probably someone much younger who either went 'Blitzball?' or just stared in confusion (Dolphin Kick when btw?) The massive amounts of nostalgia is one of the fantastic parts of this series. I think MCH did a really good thing when it started modelling itself after Edgar.
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  4. #94
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    Quote Originally Posted by CKNovel View Post
    How do we even submit feedback?

    Role actions got no changes either, we're probably still going to suffer Peloton and other useless role action.
    Even RDM got more changes, best hope is 6.1.

    But I'm not suffering the same boring job for another two years.
    Sadly CK we are finally of one mind, I’ll Imagine more will drop MCH for jobs that actually expanded
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  5. #95
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    Rika Lockhart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jirah View Post
    How exactly does a OGCD make a job more fun?
    I mean lots of people like really busy jobs, that keeps there fingers moving, a new oGCD just adds more to do in between GCD's and for those that like busy jobs, that is big. I sure as hell know I would love to more oGCD's on not just MCH, but on every job not named black mage.
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    There was a time when people said a button here or there to press didn't make a difference. Then SCH was unleashed and I'd say opinions have shifted. Be grateful for any gain at all at this point, as you could have been rendered to a brainiac edition akin to healer.
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  7. #97
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    Jira Dal'riata
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rika007 View Post
    I mean lots of people like really busy jobs, that keeps there fingers moving, a new oGCD just adds more to do in between GCD's and for those that like busy jobs, that is big. I sure as hell know I would love to more oGCD's on not just MCH, but on every job not named black mage.
    It’s a facade, it keeps your busy technically but it’s a ogcd with no underlining effects that doesn’t make the job more engaging during the flight. It’s a button you press nothing more. This doesn’t make MCH busy, it still has its shallow incarnation just adding a button you press every 20/40 sec doesn’t make it busies just fatter and full of pointless busy work that still doesn’t make it any less shallow. Give MCH 100 OGCDs and I’d would still be shallow
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  9. #98
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindiori View Post
    There was a time when people said a button here or there to press didn't make a difference. Then SCH was unleashed and I'd say opinions have shifted. Be grateful for any gain at all at this point, as you could have been rendered to a brainiac edition akin to healer.
    Grateful for any gain? I’d argue MCH gained the least. Patch days gave more to a job than a whole expansion did to this one
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    “Theirs really not much you can change with the MCH”
    -Live letter 66, 9/17/21

    Where is the ambition?

  10. #99
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    Rogue Fuki
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    Shiva
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    I don't know why but I thought there would be a major update for MCH it just looks the same to me.
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  11. #100
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    Jira Dal'riata
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    According to the media tour literally all MCH got according to kit growth is 1 gcd

    Aoe replaces a current aoe so the kit is the same, crown collider requires zero input so it literally can not exist and it’ll be the same impact plus still no aoe damage so it’s one gcd that does aoe damage makes no sense to since your filling a gauge that doesn’t have any aoe interplay, a second reassemble that…honestly that is this for? People are just gonna reassemble drill and AA then only use the 1 or am I missing something. Aaaan that’s EW.

    The same issues SHB has persist in EW unlike..every other job where it’s issues were at the least touched upon
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