Machinist needs help.

[Jirah]

How do we even submit feedback?

Role actions got no changes either, we're probably still going to suffer Peloton and other useless role action.
Even RDM got more changes, best hope is 6.1.

But I'm not suffering the same boring job for another two years.

Sadly CK we are finally of one mind, I’ll Imagine more will drop MCH for jobs that actually expanded

[Mindiori]

There was a time when people said a button here or there to press didn't make a difference. Then SCH was unleashed and I'd say opinions have shifted. Be grateful for any gain at all at this point, as you could have been rendered to a brainiac edition akin to healer.

[Jirah]

There was a time when people said a button here or there to press didn't make a difference. Then SCH was unleashed and I'd say opinions have shifted. Be grateful for any gain at all at this point, as you could have been rendered to a brainiac edition akin to healer.

Grateful for any gain? I’d argue MCH gained the least. Patch days gave more to a job than a whole expansion did to this one

[Jirah]

I mean lots of people like really busy jobs, that keeps there fingers moving, a new oGCD just adds more to do in between GCD's and for those that like busy jobs, that is big. I sure as hell know I would love to more oGCD's on not just MCH, but on every job not named black mage.

It’s a facade, it keeps your busy technically but it’s a ogcd with no underlining effects that doesn’t make the job more engaging during the flight. It’s a button you press nothing more. This doesn’t make MCH busy, it still has its shallow incarnation just adding a button you press every 20/40 sec doesn’t make it busies just fatter and full of pointless busy work that still doesn’t make it any less shallow. Give MCH 100 OGCDs and I’d would still be shallow

[Blackcanary]

I don't know why but I thought there would be a major update for MCH it just looks the same to me.

[Jirah]

According to the media tour literally all MCH got according to kit growth is 1 gcd

Aoe replaces a current aoe so the kit is the same, crown collider requires zero input so it literally can not exist and it’ll be the same impact plus still no aoe damage so it’s one gcd that does aoe damage makes no sense to since your filling a gauge that doesn’t have any aoe interplay, a second reassemble that…honestly that is this for? People are just gonna reassemble drill and AA then only use the 1 or am I missing something. Aaaan that’s EW.

The same issues SHB has persist in EW unlike..every other job where it’s issues were at the least touched upon

[MagiusNecros]

Only good skill is Chainsaw for Battery generation. Doing fuck all with Flamethrower is a huge oversight. All the changes are just visual upgrades with potencies. It gonna be a boring xpac for MCH.

[CKNovel]

Only good skill is Chainsaw for Battery generation. Doing fuck all with Flamethrower is a huge oversight. All the changes are just visual upgrades with potencies. It gonna be a boring xpac for MCH.

It's even more automated than before.
You won't try to think where to place the Queen, most of the time you just summon it at 100 battery, with Chainsaw you'll get 100 battery every minutes, fitting the AQ into every Raid buff window.

Heat management will shift a bit but the combo are apparently going up from 15s to 30s, so you won't have to worry about chaining Drill, AA and HC.
Buzzsaw is extremely disappointing.

I was shocked to learn WF, and Heat blast to remain the same. Not to mention Flamethrower still doesn’t generate heat so it’s still a Alien in the aoe kit. And of course Autocross still doesn’t recharge ricochet so it’s demoted to a generic ogcd alongside Round. Out of all of the small qol suggestions I’m surprised the devs didn’t do anything to any of them

I think for WF and Heatblast they answered to an interview saying "We don't have enough feedback".
Big proof they don't read their own forums, it was the very first feedback about 5.0 MCH and everyone was talking about "Bunshin treatment".

I don't want to raid as MCH this expac, thanks for GNB/SDG.

[ItMe]

I think for WF and Heatblast they answered to an interview saying "We don't have enough feedback".
Big proof they don't read their own forums, it was the very first feedback about 5.0 MCH and everyone was talking about "Bunshin treatment".

Where is the MCH megathread?
Where are the hundreds of pages of centralized discussion?
They've explicitly said they look at long, robust threads with lots of discussion for feedback. But MCH doesn't have this.

You say they're wrong?
You say there IS "enough feedback?"
Where is it?
Where is this "enough feedback?"
Searching for MCH threads I see almost none of them have double digit page counts, and the ones that do barely get over that.
Yeah, no, that isn't enough feedback.
And what's more, it's very scattered and difficult to track down, let alone sift through.

Sccraps of discussions don't make it to them.
People aren't asking them directly about MCH during Q&A.
Everything we have points to "yeah, they literally haven't seen our feedback."

If you wanna change that, if you wanna be heard, centralize your discussion with a megathread and stay constructive and on topic.

Otherwise you have no reason to complain that you aren't being heard when you're not taking the steps they've asked of you.


(I'm sorry if I come off as rather aggressive.)