Separate DoW/DoM Leves from DoH and DoL Leves

[Valfreyja]

So this happened to me today. I'm trying to level DoL while I have Road to 70. I reach 21 Miner and I want to continue with my leves, which means Quarrymill.

I don't use DoW/DoM leves because the XP is terrible. Yet to unlock Leves in an area, I'm bound by quests that require those jobs.

Quarrymill is a perfect example of why this is a bad design. I never unlocked it because I never needed it. Dungeons provided 100% of my XP while leveling.

The requirement is to "soothe" a pair of trees after you weaken them. The problem is that most of the jobs I had were overleveled. And as a result, those two trees kept getting wasted, even with my auto-attack. Forcing me to try over and over until finally I managed to use the Key Item before my auto-attack killed the tree.

And it just feels like this is a rather big problem. What if all my jobs are 70 plus, and I want to start doing DoL/DoH then? I'm potentially locked out of low level leves, for the simple fact that they aren't designed with high level combat jobs in mind.

I think the unlock quests need to just be removed. Or they need to be reworked into flat kill quests, where it doesn't matter if you are too powerful on your combat jobs. Or else DoH/DoL need to be able to unlock leves in a separate fashion.

It just feels like something that was pretty strongly overlooked. And while I could have just started an entire new job and leveled it to 20-25 for this, that isn't really a solution, but more like a bandaid.

[Jojoya]

The requirement is to "soothe" a pair of trees after you weaken them. The problem is that most of the jobs I had were overleveled. And as a result, those two trees kept getting wasted, even with my auto-attack. Forcing me to try over and over until finally I managed to use the Key Item before my auto-attack killed the tree.

You can switch to low level weapons and gear so your auto-attacks won't kill. or even unequip the gear altogether (you'd still need a weapon of course).

I recommend not using leve allowances for DoH/DoL leveling below level 50 unless your allowances are capped or about to cap. The allowances are far more useful at higher levels and XP gains at low levels for normal crafting/gathering activities are very large (especially class quests that are worth about a level each if done at the level intended and are going to be mandatory to get access to certain higher level actions and traits). The two characters I created this expansion leveled all DoH/DoL classes without using the low level levemetes (nor had I bothered to unlock most of them).

[Titania40]

I'm... not seeing why this is an issue? You could have unlocked leves in an area when you were still leveling, even if you didn't plan to use battle leves. You knew you would be doing the gathering and crafting ones at some point, right?