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  1. #11
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Quote Originally Posted by KatMesuneko View Post
    I've reported the person stealing my character's name and identity. I feel the GMs did something because now I can't even talk or go anywhere without seeing the same (from above, Third Party insults. I've blacklisted several of them, even found which FC it was in after some investigation. What do I do? Do I write reports of all the times I speak, and right after tell the GMs what these other people are saying. This is kinda spooky seeing this after 5 months after the incident. I just want to play FF14 and help people where I can and not have these weird people saying the same things after every time I speak.
    There's no such thing as stealing your character's name and identity. You don't own them.

    The GMs aren't going to do anything other than enforce any ToS violations. You're getting a bit paranoid if you're trying to assign blame to the GMs for anything that is happening.

    There's no rule against someone else repeating things you say. If they're copying your style and not your brother's, it sounds a lot like their problem is with you and not him.

    Blacklisting the player will block everything the other player says from your chat. Sounds like you haven't blacklisted them as you claim.

    If the other players are truly trolling over you because things your brother did, the best thing to do is not react. Ignore them. IF they don't get a response, they'll get bored and go do other things.

    If they cross the line and do things that actually break the TOS, report that. Stop reporting the stuff that isn't against the TOS (like "copying my look and style"). The more you open tickets for petty reasons, the less likely GMs will do anything other than go "omg not this player again, into the round file it goes". Then when you have a genuine problem that does need their assistance, you're going to have a harder time getting help.

    If they're bothering you that much, your best bet is to transfer to a different data center to break the connection. Your peace of mind is worth far more than the cost of the transfer fee. If you have friends on your current world that you wish to play with, you can create a new character instead. It's easy to level new characters once you know the game and you can always transfer gil from your current character to help the new one get some of the things you'd like it to have.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 07-08-2021 at 05:00 AM.

  2. #12
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    Technically, impersonation falls under 3.4:

    3.4 Impersonation. You may not impersonate any person or entity or fraudulently hold yourself out as a Square Enix employee, representative, or any other Square Enix-connected person or being affiliated with any such person or entity. This means you cannot log into someone else's account, or deceive or mislead other people as to your identity. For your own safety, we encourage users to safeguard their privacy, remain anonymous, and never give out personal information to other users.
    It depends on how broadly SE or any particular GM wants to enforce this. However, relevant to this, as stated in prior posts, account sharing is also a violation:

    3.1 Sharing Account Information. You may not share your account or login information (such as your Square Enix ID and password) with anyone except your legal guardian, your minor child, or Square Enix. You are responsible for maintaining the confidentiality of your account and login information, even from your friends and family. If you violate this provision, you may unexpectedly lose access to your account to a third party without recourse against Square Enix. Square Enix will not be obliged to credit your Square Enix Account with Crysta or other points or awards, which may have been used by a third party as a result of the violation of this clause.

    https://support.na.square-enix.com/r...1&tag=users_en

    In addition, this sort of behavior may also be interpreted as "Nuisance behaviour".

    https://support.na.square-enix.com/f...la=1&kid=68216

    Nuisance behaviour
    "Nuisance behaviour" means speech or behaviour that hurts others or obstructs game play, but which is not classified as harassment. Even if it was not the intention, a penalty may be imposed if the end result was that another person was hurt or obstructed.

    Below is a non-exhaustive list of examples of nuisance behaviour:


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    Impersonation
    "Impersonation" means impersonating or fraudulently claiming to be other players, SQUARE ENIX employees, or any third parties. This could involve using a name that resembles the character name, Free Company name, etc. or is used by another person, or using a name that is the same as or similar to the name of a Square Enix staff member.
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    Last edited by SturmChurro; 07-08-2021 at 05:10 AM.
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    You've already outlined your case on the official forums, so if the GMs were so inclined they could take action against you right now for admitting to account sharing.
    The fact that someone else is impersonating your character is also worthy of the ban hammer, but given that your acct will likely be suspended at the minimum (if not outright terminated), the only real recourse I can suggest is have someone else whom you trust in game contact Square Enix and lay bare the details of the impersonation.

    Just be prepared to lose your acct altogether. Regardless of either outcome you will not know the results of any action SE may take against the other party.
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  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Technically, impersonation falls under 3.4:

    3.4 Impersonation. You may not impersonate any person or entity or fraudulently hold yourself out as a Square Enix employee, representative, or any other Square Enix-connected person or being affiliated with any such person or entity. This means you cannot log into someone else's account, or deceive or mislead other people as to your identity. For your own safety, we encourage users to safeguard their privacy, remain anonymous, and never give out personal information to other users.
    The main question with articale 3.4 is: Does SE count FF14 players as "Square Enix-connected person", or do they use this article only towards those who impersonates SE staff specifically? Depending on answer to this question, players harassing OP may or may not fall under punishment for breaking this rule.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halivel View Post
    The main question with articale 3.4 is: Does SE count FF14 players as "Square Enix-connected person", or do they use this article only towards those who impersonates SE staff specifically? Depending on answer to this question, players harassing OP may or may not fall under punishment for breaking this rule.
    I further edited my original post. I believe it does, as it is specifically outlined as part of 'nuisance behavior'.

    Prohibitions in Final Fantasy XIV

    ■Prohibited Behaviour in Final Fantasy XIV
    In Final Fantasy XIV, obstructive behaviour that has an adverse impact on other users' game play and on service operation is prohibited. Such behaviour violates the Final Fantasy XIV User Agreement and Square Enix Account Terms of Use, and may violate other Square Enix policies or terms of use, including the Final Fantasy XIV Forum Guidelines. If a violation is confirmed as a result of our investigation, Square Enix may, in its sole discretion, apply a penalty to the relevant Final Fantasy XIV service account. Please refer to "Account Penalty Policy" for details of the penalties.
    https://support.na.square-enix.com/f...la=1&kid=68216

    Impersonation
    "Impersonation" means impersonating or fraudulently claiming to be other players, SQUARE ENIX employees, or any third parties. This could involve using a name that resembles the character name, Free Company name, etc. or is used by another person, or using a name that is the same as or similar to the name of a Square Enix staff member.
    Depending on what was actually said in their chat interactions it may fall under 'Offensive Expression' as well:

    Offensive expression
    "Offensive expression" means an expression in general that inflicts emotional distress by being offensive to another person. Offensive expression may include:

    ・Aggressive expressions such as violent language/slander/insult/threat.
    Expressions that provoke or belittle another person, such as excessive criticism, negation/ridicule
    ・Expressions that significantly lack consideration for another person
    ・Expressions that unilaterally reject another person's opinion
    ・Expressions that any reasonable person would find offensive
    ・Expressions that compel a playing style
    ・Expressions that attempt to unilaterally exclude someone from the game or content/community, etc.
    (Except when in accordance with rules set by an administrator such as a Free Company Master)
    ・Expressions that contravene public order and morals
    ・Other expressions that are offensive to another person

    Offensive expressions are prohibited in all places where expressions can be made in Final Fantasy XIV, including chat (including Quick Chat and Emote), markers, comments and names. Use of an offensive expression in the form of a character name is also regarded as nuisance behaviour.
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    Last edited by SturmChurro; 07-08-2021 at 05:18 AM.
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    I further edited my original post. I believe it does, as it is specifically outlined as part of "nuisance behavior".



    https://support.na.square-enix.com/f...la=1&kid=68216



    Depending on what was actually said in their chat interactions it may fall under 'Offensive Expression' as well:
    Thanks, I always forget that ToS is divided in several pages and usually look at the main one. Well, OP has full right to fill a proper report since this is the case.
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  7. #17
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    I think a lot of you are confused as to what falls under impersonation.

    First of all, you can't copy a player's name. Character creation will tell you that name is already in use in that World and you will have to change it, for example Kat' Mesuneko. Just that little ' already disqualifies an impersonation claim, even if the character is of the same race, job and wears the same glamours as you. You don't own any of those things.

    However, impersonation would be if Kat' Mesuneko would start telling people "I am Kat Mesuneko's alt" when in reality they weren't. That is reportable and in violation with the ToS.

    On a side note, I was bored and did a player search on Zalera and OP is the only Kat Mesuneko I could find. Soooo either something is being left out or some facts are being distorted.
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    the best you can do is what has been suggested. one does have to wonder though is what kind of fc they were, and what was done to them to put in this much effort to target the character.

    if you have some moral obligation to stay on Crystal, try a name change and spending very little time on Zalera... may help, not sure
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  9. #19
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    Wait

    Is this your main? Why did you let them play your main and not make their own character?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    Wait

    Is this your main? Why did you let them play your main and not make their own character?
    On top of that… what did your brother do? I hope you’ve put him through the ringer for ruining your rep like that…
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